RicePigeon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lysandre may have been freaking Hitler, but were you seriously expecting Nintendo/Gamefreak to put the extermination of 6 million Nosepass in a kid's game? Ghetsis is still the best villain, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Ghetsis is still the best villain, imo. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lysandre may have been freaking Hitler, but were you seriously expecting Nintendo/Gamefreak to put the extermination of 6 million Nosepass in a kid's game? Ghetsis is still the best villain, imo. Ugh, at least Ghetsis was only PRETENDING to be a Pokemon lover. Lysandre is a true PETA inspired person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lysandre is a true PETA inspired person. How? Lysandre explicitly stated that he wanted to exterminate all the jews kill all the Pokemon, so where are you getting this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lysandre is a true PETA inspired person. What. Lysandre specifically said he wanted to kill Pokemon. I don't think I see PETA doing anything even closely resembling killing animals like that. Or at least being open about it. EDIT: Greninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Think about it. What he really wanted was to stop war and destruction, which he gave off the impression that it was mostly the human's fault rather than the Pokemon's, even though it was part their fault as well. He actually showed sympathy for the Pokemon, but none for other humans. His ideals to sacrifice the Pokemon for "A better world" is similar to how PETA kills many animals to "save them from humans," and blah-blah-blah. It's a bit of a stretch, but when you think about it, it sort of makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Because nothing screams "I love animals" more than killing a Marowak in cold blood and leaving its infant child to fend for itself. Right, gotcha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hey, Lysandre has a sick-twisted mind with a few screws loose. So does PETA. PETA thinks they're helping animals by killing them, maybe Lysandre had a similar mindset. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Did you pay attention to Lysandre? He said he was doing this for the good of mankind. To make the resource limitation caused by the overpopulation be more manageable. Not for Pokemon. They were just collateral damage so they couldn't be used for conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Did you pay attention to Lysandre? He said he was doing this for the good of mankind. To make the resource limitation caused by the overpopulation be more manageable. Not for Pokemon. They were just collateral damage so they couldn't be used for conflict. From what I gather, he wanted to end wars and conflict. But I don't recall him ever saying anything about doing it for the good of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 And I also don't recall that he was doing it for the good of Pokemon either. If he was doing it to make the resources that mankind had squandered more manageable, as he specifically said, that kind of implies that he had humans in mind. Specifically: Team Flare. He's not PETA at all. Plasma is more PETA than he ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 And I also don't recall that he was doing it for the good of Pokemon either. If he was doing it to make the resources that mankind had squandered more manageable, as he specifically said, that kind of implies that he had humans in mind. Specifically: Team Flare. He's not PETA at all. Plasma is more PETA than he ever was. I was comparing him to Ghetsis over PETA rather than team Plasma as a whole. I could be wrong, but still, he felt like he had more emotions for Pokemon than for humans to me. I'm probably a bit biased, though, so I could just be choosing to notice it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Lysandre wanted to create a world where only those that were perfect survived. He even states that Pokemon were imperfect and thus did not deserve to exist. TLDR: Team Flare = Master Race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Alright, I think I understand them more now. Thanks for the insight, guys. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetfire13 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 My favorite villain still is Cyrus. Lysander may be Hitler, But Cyrus wanted to become god and recreate the universe, and he probably would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for interruption from a 3rd party, not some kid. Worst teams are Aqua and Magma, they're pants on head retarded, especially Archie since the world (I'm just assuming their world is something like ours) is 70% water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Personally I say Ghetsis was the best villian because he manipulated people to think that pokemon was slaves to humans but actrully he wanted himself and team Plasma to be the only ones to have pokemon to rule over people by using their powers. Plus he even use his foster Son 'N' for his own scheme to eliminate the strongest Trainers around using the legendary pokemon. Also in the second part of the B/W series he wanted to destroy you before you about beat him in his new plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Ghetsis actually tries to kill you (damn US localization for censoring it to freeze) in B2W2, that by itself gives him points. ...followed closely by Giovanni because hes the fucking don; nothing is ever personal, its strictly business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (damn US localization for censoring it to freeze) I too hate that type of Censoring and it happens to alot of cool Game series that get Localize in the US which I don't understand why its not like its going to be that violent Like Ghetsis was going to decapitate the hero's body or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 On a completely unrelated note, I just did a Ghost-only 6v6 with a friend using my finally-complete Ghost team. It was awesome. VDBG-WWWW-WWW4-GX4A Awesome !! Just PM me if you want to battle Nook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 * curses self for deleting that post * Will do. Eeveelutions versus Ghosts sound appealing at all? :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaibatsu Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Any news on the Pokemon Bank? I'm dieing here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmoidThunder Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Because I'm late, I'll just say that Lysandre says different things in X to what he says in Y. In X, he said he'd make you immortal, though in Y, he said he'd kill you. He didn't get to do either, of course. Also, AZ is 3000 years old and cannot die. Rather than shrink like a shrivelled old man, he just kept growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I dunno. He may be three millennium old, but does that rule out Gigantism entirely? Still, he's kind of cool anyway. As for Lysandre, maybe it's possible both games get different personalities. Is he less sympathetic towards Pokemon in Y? Also, one more random note: Why do all the Furisode girls in the Battle Chateau have the same team? What is their obsession with Audino? I am gonna vow to beat the Elite 4 today. And if not today, then tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetfire13 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I dunno. He may be three millennium old, but does that rule out Gigantism entirely? Still, he's kind of cool anyway. As for Lysandre, maybe it's possible both games get different personalities. Is he less sympathetic towards Pokemon in Y? Also, one more random note: Why do all the Furisode girls in the Battle Chateau have the same team? What is their obsession with Audino? I am gonna vow to beat the Elite 4 today. And if not today, then tomorrow. AZ is a magical giant cursed to walk the land forever because he felt bad for his friend being dead. You're not supposed to over think it Lysandre's attitude towards towards Pokemon is the same. Human imperfection taints the purity of Pokemon yadda yadda yadda. The Furisode Girls all have different teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 AZ is a magical giant cursed to walk the land forever because he felt bad for his friend being dead. You're not supposed to over think it Lysandre's attitude towards towards Pokemon is the same. Human imperfection taints the purity of Pokemon yadda yadda yadda. The Furisode Girls all have different teams. So, yeah, basically Lysandre is... yeah. The Furisode Girls all have two Audinos. Or at least all the ones I've fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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