SUPER MARIO - RELEASED

[Kanbei]

Obviously the M.U.G.E.N. Multiverse since that's where he comes from anyway.

 

Totally agree with your point of no matter how good a character looks, if it's gameplay is crap, it's a bad character. Gameplay above graphics, same goes with videogames. Even though I'll admit that CvS Link looks good, I greatly doubt it will be better than the one you poured so much time and effort into, Jonamite.

^This NJ.

[Erroratu]

Can we just ban Ax?
He is literally flaming and being an outright asshole to people and telling them "Hey you made a good char,good job,but this here is 1000 times better and nobody is gonna play yours HAHAHA Im better than all of you HAHA" etc. etc. etc.
 

[Kanbei]

Can we just ban Ax?

He is literally flaming and being an outright asshole to people and telling them "Hey you made a good char,good job,but this here is 1000 times better and nobody is gonna play yours HAHAHA Im better than all of you HAHA" etc. etc. etc.

 

Well its up to Ryon to ban him.

[PlasmoidThunder]

Also take a look at the Link that is going to replace yours.

 

much CvS

so smooth

wow

 

Yeah, that comment was downright arseholey. To be fair, KingCharz's Link is my personal favourite, so suck on that, Ax. You had nothing to do with that version.

 

Also, is it physically impossible to have more than one version of a character in your roster? Does adding a new one automatically delete the old one? I don't think so.

[Laharl]

Axking I am doing all I can right now to make sure you are banned for this. Your entire posts in this thread is downright horrible. You my friend have stepped over the boundary of feedback you say darkflare is bad? have you looked in a damn mirror lately? what you said has to be the most despicable thing I have ever read on this forum. I thought you might have a chance but nooooo you just threw all of that out the window with this my god. Even I was NEVER this bad.

[Wargame-kun]

most important of the character is being made is the damn gameplay

 yea sure the sprites are cool when it comes to gameplay turn out to be bad 

(only those jerk ass collectors will get this!)

unlike the other one the sprites is a bit ok when it comes to gameplay is good/great

(most of the people like me will get that for those casual players who likes balance very much!)

[AxSeeker]

What was wrong with my post? And ban! Ban for what?!

 

I just gave feedback. I never rallied against someone's feedback on any of these threads to ban them for stuff they said to me. I don't get it? Others can tell me that I'm terrible but I can't tell others whether they are good or terrible?

 

btw what does mmv have to do with this? It sounds like someone is trying to start a flamewar over forums now. I'm just answering questions and giving my opinion when asked about it. (For the record I came from mfg originally and I've moved from forum to forum)

 

@GarchompMatt,

 

No please don't validate my point by ditching NJ's version....

 

 

You obviously missed the point entirely as well as NJ.

 

I was just showing NJ that with nothing unique in his version that his character will get replaced. Which apparently you just proved by your statement. Anyway, What's so bad about that? I'm just telling the guy that he better try harder to stay in the game. The same message I get from others, "Ax try harder because your characters lack...or aren't good because..." *paraphrasing of course because what was actually said involved cursing and was much worse towards me lol* Though I take it well and I say thanks for the feedback + I'll consider it. Then i move on.

 

NJ isn't taking my feedback well. Okay; moving on. Sorry I answered him. I won't give you feedback ever again. I closed it to with "no ill will" a.k.a. Peace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the end I am just encouraging NJ. My comments are being taken out of context and being made to look slanderous rather than the scenario it's being depicted in the example I gave.

 

@laharl,

 

Have I said darkflare is bad? Please don't put words in my mouth.

[MugoUrth]

We're yelling at your feedback cause you have no real room to talk, AxKing. I mean, I have been a bit nitpicky about move-sets before, but never did I act like a standard move-set automatically made something into crap. Like NJ said, he worked his end off making Link, which is more than you or anyone else can say about you, a person who pridefully half-jobs their work.

[RicePigeon]

My anger is fully justifiable. I work my ass off all those months just to make him actually playable, and you shit on him by saying he's bland, uncreative, and too safe.

 

 

Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss such feedback. HOWEVER, considering that it's Ax who's giving this feedback, who can't/won't address the glaring issues in his characters, his feedback holds about as much weight as the "Nice Char +1" comments that he's so used to/trying to fish for, and the way he presented this feedback proves this, of which I will now proceed to tear apart piece by piece:

 

 

But com'on, that's creativity right there, taking an old idea and making it new. Besides a bomb drop from a safe distance in fly mode works. As for the tri-force slash, it's too plain, it might as well be a regular combo. You can do better.

 

 

Creative != Successful. Cases in point: Ed Wood and Uwe Boll

 

 

I appreciate that you tried and fixed stuff but I see nothing new worth downloading. I'm just saying to you what I've always have been saying to you and that is to take a chance, make some sprites yourself. You play it safe too much and you do nothing exciting. Your work is bland, it functions well but it's bland. I even spent an hour showing you how to do it yourself.

 

 

Nowhere in this statement (or the rest of your post for that matter) do you explain WHY the character is bland. You don't cite specific examples, nor do you provide any form of what could possibly be done to address the issue that could even remotely be called feedback. It gives off the impression that you truly have no idea what you're talking about.

 

 

How unfortunate. I thought you would appreciate good feedback like this but whatever, it's fine.

 

 

Pot meet Kettle. As far as I'm concerned, you have no right to be hurling around "good" feedback when you can't/won't even fix the glaring issues in your own works.

 

 

You wouldn't know good feedback if it slapped you in the face multiple times and was right next to you every waking moment of your life.

 

 

^ This... So much this.

 

 

I recently downloaded your character again and it's hardly that different from what that other coder did all ready before it was passed on to you.

 

Also take a look at the Link that is going to replace yours.

If it's going to play just like yours then I doubt they'll bother downloading yours.

 

 

You're basing the "superior" overall quality of an unreleased character on a 2-frame idle stance? Yeah, no... This "feedback" just smacks of ego and only further solidifies my belief that you're intentionally trying to troll this community AS YOU HAVE DONE TWICE IN THE PAST. Spamming Neo-Nazi Propaganda? Damning an entire Mugen forum to hell in the name of Christ for "worshiping false idols"? Do either of these incidents ring a bell to you? Because THEY SHOULD. And I will be more than happy to provide examples of your post history from guild not only to refresh your memory, but also to further back up all three of the above claims, something that you are unable/unwilling to do with your "feedback". And before anyone claims that I'm posting something irrelevant that's offtopic, allow me to explain WHY this is relevant, and why I believe that this entire thing is a thinly veiled attempt at trolling on your part:

• The overall quality of your works have DIMINISHED with each successive release. I find it highly unlikely that someone would actually get worse over time unless they were doing it intentionally.
• Releasing 5 characters in the time span of less than 2 weeks, with at least one of them being a spriteswap of another, all of them 3-4 days apart from each other. I would expect this kind of behavior from a clueless second-rate creator like PGRSMagen, JoshGeary, or even WlanmaniaX, to be frank.
• When confronted with feedback showing just how bad your releases are, you retort with snide and sarcastic remarks that smack of ego, both here and on MMV, including the remarks about Link that I posted earlier.

[DarkWolf13]

Ax... I can't believe what you just said about people erasing Jonamite's Link as soon as your version comes out ... I'm sorry I have to say this and this is DEFINITELY NOT ME to go out like this... but you are one big jerk ass f*** who obviously don't give a damn about other people's hard works/creations. That was the most UNFORGIVABLE statement you made! In all my time on a MUGEN forum I have NEVER seen such a wit-less, cold, jerkass statement from someone like you! I may have the ability to make and release a character in a matter of hours but I will never say something like "Mine is better so people will never play yours again"! I look forward to see what the Boss has to say about your statement.

[Chakanibon]

question why this damn thread is not yet closed ?

[Xan]

I'm just going to take this opportunity to question why everybody bashes MFG for having too much drama when their AxKing release threads never went this bad.

[RicePigeon]

Because guild is full of insensitive dumdums who are just jelly because they never made any releases in their lives yet bash good creations and simply shouldnt download it if they don't like it and fuck orochiguild

 

EDIT: I just noticed this little gem:

 

http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t3133p15-super-mario-released#38335

 

 

I know copypasting other people's posts has always been his schtick but I can't stop LOL'ing at the irony of this. (wait... Darkmasao visits MFFA now?)

[Xan]

That's absolute gold. Somebody give that spambot a high-five.

[Phantom Blood]

 

The minute it comes out they're gonna delete yours

 

What a cunt thing to say towards an author who actually spends time updating and trying to put out the best product that he can

 

They couldn't delete it anyhow as their recycle bin is full of your characters

 

- please feel free to say what you want darkflare

[LightFlare_Da_Realest]

What a cunt thing to say towards an author who actually spends time updating and trying to put out the best product that he can

Ax...You've got some dope sprites. And I've recently seen promise in your stages. But that comment is bad, bro.

 

- please feel free to say what you want darkflare

Pandora's Box...has been opened.

[AxSeeker]

Ax... I can't believe what you just said about people erasing Jonamite's Link as soon as your version comes out ... I'm sorry I have to say this and this is DEFINITELY NOT ME to go out like this... but you are one big jerk ass f*** who obviously don't give a damn about other people's hard works/creations. That was the most UNFORGIVABLE statement you made! In all my time on a MUGEN forum I have NEVER seen such a wit-less, cold, jerkass statement from someone like you! I may have the ability to make and release a character in a matter of hours but I will never say something like "Mine is better so people will never play yours again"! I look forward to see what the Boss has to say about your statement.

 

 

I never said the new CVS Link (Zelda) coming out was mine. That's someone else doing that wip.

 

Also read the whole thing before jumping on the band wagon and see that my comment got completely taken out of context.

 

 

 

Well anyway, I'm used to being banned. I guess it won't matter :P

[Lord Batros]

*hands the Thread a Midol & Closes The Door* 

[volzzilla]

recently posted on MMV and figured to cut and paste here....

 

feedback:
- sprites look generally nice for the most part
- needs a proper 9000,1 port
- bad clsns
- many things misaligned
- loaded with infinites
- do not like the gameplay commands at all
- bad AI
- hyperport has colorloss, is ugly, and is misaligned
- on the hammer hyper, the sprites are inconsistent in sprite style
- stance needs animation
- no taunt
- standing LP, air MP and MK seem more like should be specials
- sff needs cleaning out from previous works
- frozen state refers to a template animation
- electrocuted state refers to a template animation
- with a comment like "mixing of various mario games", i thought the moveset would be more custom. but i thought it was pretty boring. at least would have liked to see something from mario kart, mario soccer and mario baseball.

 

 

edit (copy and paste first as wasnt sure if topic locked or not after zombie reply) :main reason for posting though....

 

i believe a comment Ax made being taken totally out of context. i'm pretty sure he was not referring to everyone in mugen should delete NJ's Link if a better one comes out. he was speaking personally. as you know, many people in mugen do not keep duplicate characters and often only keep the version they find the most fun. i don't personally believe that sentiment as i have numerous duplicates. i have a number of Links and think NJ's is the best currently. i was looking forward to his version of Joker and may have even made all new sprites to help him out in the future. went off on a tangent a little. my point is, many people don't keep duplicates, Ax is apparently one of them, and he was speaking personally when making that comment on the subject and not for all of Mugen.

[CozySquirtle]

That Link sprite looks awfully familiar, isn't that C.v.s The Abstract's CvS Link sprite? I swear it is. I remember seening it over at the guild. If this is the case and your claiming it to be your own, its just sad. Cause we've all seen what you make. Shit and more shit. Day in and day out.

 

 

   http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/soul-calibur-wips-tekken-vs-soul-calibur-145616.msg1658576.html#msg1658576

 

Proof is in the pudding...

[AxSeeker]

Yeah, what volzzilla said.

 

It's not the first time I brought this up to NJ either. I've encouraged him to make sprites himself and I even spent one on one time with him in private to show him what i do and guided him step by step to make something.

 

Since then though he hasn't continued to sprite and instead left it to others to do. A little disappointing but I still encourage him to do more.

 

 

 

 

When I started Link (Zelda) character, this new CvS Link was shown to me and I was seriously considering quitting my wip but then I decided, maybe if I tried doing different and more creative stuff that it be worth checking out.

 

 

I've suggested the same to NJ and he isn't taking it too well.

 

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/idaho-wips-there-are-none-details-most-recent-post--143178.480.html

 

@squirttle,

 

go up 5 posts and read my post where I say specifically that the CvS Link isn't mine. thx.

[MugoUrth]

Also read the whole thing before jumping on the band wagon and see that my comment got completely taken out of context.

 

Right, because saying "Once this one is finished, they're gonna delete your version" is totally being taken out of context.

[Darkflare]

Let me just get this over with while I still have the authorization.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. I have never before in my time in this community seen anyone be more of a scumbag shithead than Ax. And I've seen people be elitist douchebags, people with heads up their ass, and people that bitched and whined for just editting their character even if said edit drastically improved the character. And somehow against all odds, you manage to surpass the scummyness of all these people I've witnessed. Never would I have thought I would feel so much anger and hate for the actions of someone.

So let me get this straight, you make these shitpiles in the hopes that someone is able to use them for their work. Well congrafuckinglations, for some reason Idaho was willing to do something with your Link. He works hard on his Link and all he requests from you is a few additional sprites. You then proceed to tell him to go fuck himself and to make the sprites himself. Uh, are you fucking stupid? If he was capable of spriting don't you think he would have done so? You've "made" the Link sprites already, the LEAST you could have done was make a few more while he continues coding.

Oh ho ho, it gets better. You have the BALLS to call his character bad because ONE move is not to your liking. YOU FUCKING UNGRATEFUL PRICK, Idaho worked his ass to make an actual GOOD character and you proceed to shit on him? He should have been more creative with the leaf? You know....the thing that was never used as an attack and strictly for getting from point A to point B? You know what, given the source material Idaho was right to make it an intro and not an actual attack. Speaking of source material, want to know what wis the best choice to make as a super move? His smash bros. Final Smash. You know that auto combo move you hate? He shouldn't have added it because it's not creative enough? It's the worst choice for a hyper move? That's a load of BULLSHIT. Auto combo supers are still being used and why? BECAUSE THEY MAKE SENSE AND ARE EFFECTIVE AS SUPER MOVES.

OH BUT IT GETS FUCKING BETTER. You're still not satisfied and want to shit on Idaho even more by telling him that not only his Link is a bad character(This, coming from Ax of all people? HA!), but that it will be easily replaced by another? My god, can you possibly be even more of a shithead? APPARENTLY YOU CAN, because now you claim that all those things you said were your feedback to "improve" the character. Besides the fact that your feedback is UTTER SHIT, you can't go accusing people of not taking feedback well when YOU YOURSELF DON'T EVEN ACCEPT FEEDBACK TO BEGIN WITH. Wow, hypocrite much?

Thanks for letting us all know just what kind of sack of shit of a human being you really are. When even the white knights that were willing to defend you decide instead to turn against you, you know you've seriously fucked up. Your kind are the cancer that threatens to kill this community. Idaho had every damn right to be pissed at you. I'm not directly involved and I'm pissed off too.

Oh and you're used to being banned? So you get banned from place to place on a regular basis? GEE, I FUCKING WONDER WHY?

I'm done, going to cross my fingers Ax gets the hammer, but otherwise I'm done. I got my point accross, I think I've spoken for everyone here as well.

[RicePigeon]

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[Phantom Blood]

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