Neo_Fire_Sonic Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Wait, you do know that the Roy and Ryu clip are win fanfares, right. Something that only playable characters have. However, it does remind me that the soundfiles could very well be red herrings (like Ermacs in Mortal Kombat or Kano Transformations in Mortal Kombat 2), but I would expect that more from the Mortal Kombat developers than from Nintendo. The problem with Roy's win fanfare, is that they could easily copy ANY of the other fire emblem character's win music and just change the name of the file to look legit. Ryu's on the other hand, not sure where the fuck that is from. -play gaem, gaem iz kul
Trinitronity Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Ryu's win fanfare is a direct copy from Street Fighter 2 Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
Galvatron Posted May 1, 2015 Author Posted May 1, 2015 Wait, you do know that the Roy and Ryu clip are win fanfares, right. Something that only playable characters have. However, it does remind me that the soundfiles could very well be red herrings (like Ermacs in Mortal Kombat or Kano Transformations in Mortal Kombat 2), but I would expect that more from the Mortal Kombat developers than from Nintendo. Indeed! but you need to understand that those files in the game are only dump_files or unused for the game meaning Nintendo can change or removed them through Updates if they want. :-P So we cannot guarantee if Ryu or Roy Eliwood will be in the game until Nintendo 'officially confirms'!!!!! about it. Trust me we cannot draw that conclusion until Sakurai and his crew decide to do so. Because to me all this speculations is just to encourage people to vote for Roy Eliwood to come back around but overall is all up to Sakurai to decide who he wants in the game. As I said before its best to wait until around Fall (October) to see what happens after the votings are done. MugoUrth 1 MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MugoUrth Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Wait, you do know that the Roy and Ryu clip are win fanfares, right. Something that only playable characters have. However, it does remind me that the soundfiles could very well be red herrings (like Ermacs in Mortal Kombat or Kano Transformations in Mortal Kombat 2), but I would expect that more from the Mortal Kombat developers than from Nintendo. Galvatron said it better than I did. I will admit, though... I really don't want either character. I really do NOT want another Fire Emblem character, and I'm really skeptical on Ryu since Mario and Luigi's original movesets were slightly fashioned after Ryu and Ken (Projectile/uppercut/spinning move) so I'm worried if Ryu's moveset will just be a Mario/Luigi/Dr. Mario clone. I know it doesn't have to be, and there's no set-in-stone way to tell what his side-B move could be, but it's still somewhat of a concern. Mega Evil Ninja Slurpuff STRIKES AGAIN!!! http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-86635112
Trinitronity Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Well, if you say it like that, then yes, that's possible as well. However, I am very sure that Roy is plausible, mainly because he was already intended to be in Brawl, just like Mewtwo and Dr. Mario, who are indeed playable in Smash 4. Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
PlasmoidThunder Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 But then three Marths. Not sure why Sakurai's crew would put Ryu's theme in the patch files if they were merely going to remove it later. Unless this is similar to Mew in Red & Green and Sakurai doesn't know about it. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Neo_Fire_Sonic Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Ryu's win fanfare is a direct copy from Street Fighter 2 Exactly the same thing, since its DIRECTLY from SF2 someone can easily get the win music and just change the filename for it to look legit. Its not even some sort of remix -play gaem, gaem iz kul
Galvatron Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 But then three Marths. That the point we have Lucina which could mean she could be an replacement for Roy Eliwood just as Toon-Link is an replacement for Young-Link(OoT). MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trinitronity Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Lucina is an awful Roy replacement, though. Seriously, why do so many people hate Dark Pit, if Lucina is the bigger culprit? I mean, even Dark Pit is more different from Pit than Lucina is from Marth. Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
MugoUrth Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Lucina is an awful Roy replacement, though. Seriously, why do so many people hate Dark Pit, if Lucina is the bigger culprit? I mean, even Dark Pit is more different from Pit than Lucina is from Marth. I don't like either. Dark Pit is basically just a recolor of regular pit with a slightly different outfit and slightly different neutral-special and side-special, but at least Dark Pit gets his own Final Smash. Lucina really is not much more than a Marth genderswap with the only real difference being that Marth's attacks get stronger at the tip, where Lucina's are average anywhere on her blade. She really should have just been an Alt, but I hear people would have pitched a fit if she was merely an alt. Nintendo making her her own character feels like a cave-in really. You don't have to like Roy, but he was still different enough. More power, a bit slower, and stronger in the middle of the blade than the tip. It wasn't much, but it was still more than Lucina. Mega Evil Ninja Slurpuff STRIKES AGAIN!!! http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-86635112
Trinitronity Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Agreed. And it really speaks a lot that Roy was actually planned to be playable in Brawl at some point, together with Mewtwo and (strangely) Doctor Mario. Now here is a bigger mystery: What software limitations could Chorus Kids invoke in Smash 3DS? I mean, they would most probably be flat in the game anyway. And you don't have to make every Chorus Kid to be playable at once. A single Chorus Kid could have easily worked as well, while the remaining Chorus Kids and the Conductor would join up for the Final Smash. Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
PlasmoidThunder Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 but at least Dark Pit gets his own Final Smash. Edgy Light Arrows. But yeah, Lucina is basically weak Marth. Her sword does about 2% more damage than if Marth sourspotted his sword (attacking with the base), which isn't going to happen all that often. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Galvatron Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 Yeah I admit Lucina is a weaker but alittle Faster version of Marth which surprised me that she wasn't Alt character Like Alph and the koopalings. :-P However if you think about how Mario, Dr. Mario and Luigi is now they are all basicly similar characters but the are different in they own way. Now if Sakurai decides to put Roy Eliwood as DLC then Its more lilkly he give him some different moves to be like his own character but still with similar style like Marth and Lucina. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trinitronity Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 You know what would be funny: If Roy Eliwood's Final Smash will be NOT Critical Hit for once, but actually Roy grabbing the titular Sword of Seal and then wreaking havoc. ...but knowing Sakurai, it will be Critical Hit again. Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
PlasmoidThunder Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 To be fair, Roy never had a Final Smash, so seeing as Sakurai gave Mewtwo a Final Smash that wasn't Aura Psycho Storm or a transformation (not in the traditional sense, at least), then there's a fairly good chance he'll get something other than Critical Hit, even if it's a generic Hyper Combo. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Galvatron Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 You know what would be funny: If Roy Eliwood's Final Smash will be NOT Critical Hit for once, but actually Roy grabbing the titular Sword of Seal and then wreaking havoc. ...but knowing Sakurai, it will be Critical Hit again. To be fair, Roy never had a Final Smash, so seeing as Sakurai gave Mewtwo a Final Smash that wasn't Aura Psycho Storm or a transformation (not in the traditional sense, at least), then there's a fairly good chance he'll get something other than Critical Hit, even if it's a generic Hyper Combo. LOL! that would be Funny but be Just obvious the fact its going to be almost the same moves though we will see how that fairs if DLC is possible for him. Anyways another canindate I had in mind to vote was Klonoa: He was quite popular back in the late 90's and early 2000 (between the Ps1 and Ps2 era) he had a set amont of games including acouple on GBA and also appeared in NamcoXCapcom. Practicaly he was pretty much another Namco Icon characters Personally i say He be another good charcter for smash. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trinitronity Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Actually, I kept on wondering, what special moves to implement for a possible Smash version of Klonoa. Then I played Crusade and discovered through Spriter's Resource that Crusade's Klonoa was pretty much based on NxC. I highly doubt that would be what Nintendo would shoot for though, so what else could Klonoa have for his pletora of special moves? And what would be his Final Smash? P.S.: Yeah, I only played the very first Klonoa and that one classical Klonoa platformer on Game Boy Advance. Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
MugoUrth Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Klonoa would be kind of cool, but I think he might be a bit too obscure to have a legitimate chance. I mean he is fairly well known, but so far the third-party characters have been Video Game legends who have made their mark on gaming (Even despite recent flops) and I don't think Klonoa has really done that. Mega Evil Ninja Slurpuff STRIKES AGAIN!!! http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-86635112
Galvatron Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 Actually, I kept on wondering, what special moves to implement for a possible Smash version of Klonoa. Then I played Crusade and discovered through Spriter's Resource that Crusade's Klonoa was pretty much based on NxC. I highly doubt that would be what Nintendo would shoot for though, so what else could Klonoa have for his pletora of special moves? And what would be his Final Smash? P.S.: Yeah, I only played the very first Klonoa and that one classical Klonoa platformer on Game Boy Advance. Hmm... he has some moves if you played the 2nd Game on PS2 besides the grab and boost jump moves he has this "tonado spin" move. and Of course He has the "wind bullet" attack His final smash more likly he will summon Guntz (who came from the 2nd GBA game): Klonoa would be kind of cool, but I think he might be a bit too obscure to have a legitimate chance. I mean he is fairly well known, but so far the third-party characters have been Video Game legends who have made their mark on gaming (Even despite recent flops) and I don't think Klonoa has really done that. I wouldn't say that MugoUrth considering he had a far amount of games. He just not as popular like he used to be back then. :-P MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trinitronity Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Meh, Guntz would be a better choice as an assist trophy... Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
Galvatron Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 Meh, Guntz would be a better choice as an assist trophy... Yeah he could be as well. :-P Then again Robin can summon Chrom for alittle while I was just thinking of the same concept with Klonoa as a Final Smash like that but in a different way. Like how he gets backed up in NamcoxCapcom by Guntz. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PlasmoidThunder Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Soon... Galvatron 1 Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Neo_Fire_Sonic Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Soon... Nah, someone else. Or well yeah just someone different from the dk franchise. Not dixie she might just be a diddy clone -play gaem, gaem iz kul
Trinitronity Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 How the hell could Dixie Kong ever be a Diddy clone? Releases: WIPs: KuaiDa ChuanShuo Street Fighter IV Remake (by D The Red Cloak, DuckSS and Trinitronity)
PlasmoidThunder Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Quite easily, actually. I mean, the recovery would probably be different. We need more bad guys in the roster. K. Rool has been the enemy of the Kong Family in all Country titles except the two most recent ones and there's plenty to work with when it comes to a moveset. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
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