RicePigeon Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Not to mention one time use. Unless you can OHKO the Swagger user (which probably wont happen with the likely Substitute) it's not worth it. The only real users of Own Tempo that are actually viable in OU are Smeargle, Slowbro and Slowking, and latter two have access to the infinitely better Regenerator, while Smeargle doesn't do anything except set up hazards and die (followed by lol Defog) or use on Baton Pass chains, and does nothing to stop Paralysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Well I am done finishing my new team so I will be online from time to time if anybody wants to battle me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I plan on it. I'm starved for battles. EDIT: ggs, Noobie. Sorry about Victini plowing through your team like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I plan on it. I'm starved for battles. EDIT: ggs, Noobie. Sorry about Victini plowing through your team like that. LOL! its cool Xan. I am glad to see someone online using it for once. to be honest I never fought against one before till now Thanks. ^_^ I was trying to record that one but I had an Error. =(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Okay, so time to bring more theorymonning into discussion. Gardevoir got a Mega Evolution, but Gallade gets shafted? Doesn't this seem weird to anyone else? Mega Gallade Psychic/Fighting Tough Claws 68/125/65/65/115/80 -> 68/175/85/65/115/110 With its "new" Mega Evolution, it patches up Gallade's speed, which has plagued it in the past. It can now outspeed certain key threats including, but not limited to, Terrakion, Keldeo, both Mega Charizards, Garchomp, both Landorus formes, and Manaphy, while forming a speed tie with Latios, Latias and Gengar. Its frail 65 base physical defense has been slightly patched, while his attack stat reaches 175, the 4th highest in the game. With Tough Claws, most of Gallade's physical movepool becomes even more dangerous with a 30% damage buff, including Close Combat, Shadow Sneak, Knock Off, Ice Punch, and Zen Headbutt, all in combination with Swords Dance turns Gallade into a promising sweeper capable of manhandling many S-rank and A-rank threats in OU: Unboosted: 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 220-260 (83.9 - 99.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 390-462 (110.7 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 866-1022 (123 - 145.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 270-318 (88.8 - 104.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 68+ Def Mega Venusaur: 312-368 (85.7 - 101%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 190-225 (48.2 - 57.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 267-315 (89.5 - 105.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKOBoosted: +1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Landorus-T: 692-816 (181.1 - 213.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 568-670 (175.3 - 206.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 393-462 (97.2 - 114.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Scizor: 372-438 (108.1 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 448-528 (147.3 - 173.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Deoxys-D: 242-286 (79.6 - 94%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 498-586 (153.7 - 180.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 316-374 (103.9 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 194-229 (64.6 - 76.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Mega Gallade Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 384-452 (118.5 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Okay, so time to bring more theorymonning into discussion. Gardevoir got a Mega Evolution, but Gallade gets shafted? Doesn't this seem weird to anyone else? Mega Gallade Psychic/Fighting Tough Claws 68/125/65/65/115/80 -> 68/175/85/65/115/110 With its "new" Mega Evolution, it patches up Gallade's speed, which has plagued it in the past. It can now outspeed certain key threats including, but not limited to, Terrakion, Keldeo, both Mega Charizards, Garchomp, both Landorus formes, and Manaphy, while forming a speed tie with Latios, Latias and Gengar. Its frail 65 base physical defense has been slightly patched, while his attack stat reaches 175, the 4th highest in the game. With Tough Claws, most of Gallade's physical movepool becomes even more dangerous with a 30% damage buff, including Close Combat, Shadow Sneak, Knock Off, Ice Punch, and Zen Headbutt, all in combination with Swords Dance turns Gallade into a promising sweeper capable of manhandling many S-rank and A-rank threats in OU: Unboosted: 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 220-260 (83.9 - 99.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 390-462 (110.7 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 866-1022 (123 - 145.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 270-318 (88.8 - 104.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 68+ Def Mega Venusaur: 312-368 (85.7 - 101%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 190-225 (48.2 - 57.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 267-315 (89.5 - 105.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO Boosted: +1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Landorus-T: 692-816 (181.1 - 213.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 568-670 (175.3 - 206.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 393-462 (97.2 - 114.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Scizor: 372-438 (108.1 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 448-528 (147.3 - 173.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Deoxys-D: 242-286 (79.6 - 94%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 498-586 (153.7 - 180.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 316-374 (103.9 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 194-229 (64.6 - 76.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Mega Gallade Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 384-452 (118.5 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO I say that theory is decent for mega Gallade. at least it won't be KOed so easily I was thinking (imagine) if Infernape had an Mega-evo with Tough Claws ability with added defence ( both SP and Physical Def) That be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWolf13 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This what I think when theorymonning as Rice puts it... but I think this one can make good use of Tough Claws better Mega Feraligatr Water Tough Claws 85/105/100/79/83/78 -> 85/140/135/89/103/78 Upon Mega Evolving, Feraligatr becomes a major threat with its Mega ability, which allow it to deal far more damage thanks to the increase of its Attack and can withstand even more attacks with its improved Defense... despite having an increase in Sp. Def, Special attacks can still be a problem for Feraligatr when withstanding any high power attacks it's weak against, Freeze Dry included. With its Attack boosted and Mega ability, Feraligatr can easily wipe out Pokemon with frail defenses and Aqua Jet's power becomes 78. Its physical moveset that make contact + Dragon Dance will turn Feraligatr into a Death Trap for many, whether it'll be an Offensive or Defensive Tank. I'm sure Rice can come with something to elaborate this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Mega Evolutions are apparently equivalent to sharpening your fingernails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ HANNIBALROYCE Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 gallade would look SOOOOOO BADASS TOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This what I think when theorymonning as Rice puts it... but I think this one can make good use of Tough Claws better Mega Feraligatr Water Tough Claws 85/105/100/79/83/78 -> 85/135/130/79/93/78 Upon Mega Evolving, Feraligatr becomes a major threat with its Mega ability, which allow it to deal far more damage thanks to the increase of its Attack and can withstand even more attacks with its improved Defense... despite having an increase in Sp. Def, Special attacks can still be a problem for Feraligatr when withstanding any high power attacks it's weak against, Freeze Dry included. With its Attack boosted and Mega ability, Feraligatr can easily wipe out Pokemon with frail defenses and Aqua Jet's power becomes 78. Its physical moveset that make contact + Dragon Dance will turn Feraligatr into a Death Trap for many, whether it'll be an Offensive or Defensive Tank. I'm sure Rice can come with something to elaborate this one. Except Mega Evolutions always add a total of 100 to the BST (except Mega Alakazam, which only adds 90). You still have 30 points left unused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWolf13 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Except Mega Evolutions always add a total of 100 to the BST (except Mega Alakazam, which only adds 90). You still have 30 points left unused. Used up the remaining points (5 for Atk & Def, 10 for Sp Atk& Sp. Def). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 This what I think when theorymonning as Rice puts it... but I think this one can make good use of Tough Claws better Mega Feraligatr Water Tough Claws 85/105/100/79/83/78 -> 85/140/135/89/103/78 Upon Mega Evolving, Feraligatr becomes a major threat with its Mega ability, which allow it to deal far more damage thanks to the increase of its Attack and can withstand even more attacks with its improved Defense... despite having an increase in Sp. Def, Special attacks can still be a problem for Feraligatr when withstanding any high power attacks it's weak against, Freeze Dry included. With its Attack boosted and Mega ability, Feraligatr can easily wipe out Pokemon with frail defenses and Aqua Jet's power becomes 78. Its physical moveset that make contact + Dragon Dance will turn Feraligatr into a Death Trap for many, whether it'll be an Offensive or Defensive Tank. I'm sure Rice can come with something to elaborate this one. I came up with a similar spread of 85/145/130/79/103/88 and Tough Jaw instead of Tough Claws. Retains similar bulk while also being faster. I'll post calcs as soon as I can. In the meantime, here's a little something I'm surprised not even the mascot of the series got: Mega Raichu Electric/Electric Electrilate* 60/90/55/90/80/110 -> 60/130/65/130/90/110 *Electrilate: Boosts the power of Normal-type moves by 30% and changes them into Electric-type. While Raichu's defense doesn't improve by much, it gets a much needed boost to its offensive potential, while still maintaining its 110 base speed. With 130/130 offenses, Raichu can function as either physical, special, or even mixed attacker. Physical Attacker Mega Raichu @ Raichite Static -> Electrilate Extremespeed Knock Off Substitute / Return Focus Punch / Encore 4 hp / 252 atk / 252 speed Jolly / Adamant With Electrilate, M.Raichu's Extremespeed and Return become 104 and 132 base power physical electric-type attacks, respectively. Extremespeed allows it to hit hard while outspeeding all common priority users such as Talonflame, Azumarill, and Bisharp, hitting the former 2 for super effective damage, as well as breaking the speed tie against Keldeo, becoming an excellent tool for scoring revenge kills. Return can also be used to hit slower threats for more damage. M.Raichu can utilize SubPunch, which provides it with near unresisted coverage in conjunction with Knock Off, which is an excellent move in general to punishing switch ins by removing their item. Damage Calcs: 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 229-270 (76.3 - 90%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 410-486 (101.4 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 420-494 (140.9 - 165.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Pinsir: 290-344 (106.6 - 126.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 186-220 (61.1 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 186-220 (76.8 - 90.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 286-337 (40.6 - 47.8%) -- 64.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Mega Raichu Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 150-178 (46.2 - 54.9%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Mega Raichu Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 460-544 (113.8 - 134.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO Special Sweeper Mega Raichu @ Raichite LightningRod -> Electrilate Nasty Plot Thunderbolt / Thunder Hidden Power (Ice) Focus Blast 4 hp / 252 sp.atk / 252 speed Timid With 130 base Sp.Atk, M.Raichu can come in on anything that it can force out and begin hitting extremely hard. Thunderbolt is its primary stab, although Thunder can be used if used on rain teams. Hidden Power Ice takes out the likes of Dragon types such as Garchomp and Dragonite, as well as Gliscor and both Landorus formes. Focus Blast takes care of threats such as Tyranitar, OHKOing even Assault Vest variants in the sand after a Nasty Plot boost, as well as Heatran, Ferrothorn, and non-Scarfed Excadrill. Damage Calcs: +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 207-244 (63.8 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 368-436 (91 - 107.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 362-426 (93.7 - 110.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem-B: 572-674 (125.9 - 148.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 262-310 (80.8 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmoidThunder Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Extremespeed Though only one Pikachu can have Extremespeed: the Japan-only Extremespeed Pikachu. Damn hacked movesets. I think Shofu used one once. English name, but it had Extremespeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Really!? I thought you can breed a Pikachu that move but I guess not! =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmoidThunder Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Really!? I thought you can breed a Pikachu that move Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Nope. I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 It exists. It may have been a gen 5 japan-exclusive event, but it still exists, and is certainly tradeable. And its not like Raichu doesn't get 132 base power electrilate-boosted Return.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo_Fire_Sonic Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 i got a typhlosion today from the GTS i'm so happy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 i got a typhlosion today from the GTS i'm so happy :D cool! by the way did i ever get your friend code from you Neo? We should battle when you have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I should get to building a lower-tier team. So many cool things suck. EDIT: JESUS CHRIST, NOOBIE, WHEN DID YOU GET GOOD?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 EDIT: JESUS CHRIST, NOOBIE, WHEN DID YOU GET GOOD?! LOL! That was my "Ace' team you dealt with But your Victini stilled burned them to crisped. That 'V-create' move is very powerful indeed. =P I need a good stategy to deal with that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The only strategy I can think of is to not die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The only strategy I can think of is to not die. Hmm.. you might have just gave me an idea....LOL! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If it's Focus Sash, I'm going to have to get an old mon of mine rejuvenated and ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If it's Focus Sash, I'm going to have to get an old mon of mine rejuvenated and ready to go. Yep I was just thinking about that. Or a pokemon that can Absorb Fire (Flash Fire ability). =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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