Galvatron Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 According to the CoroCoro Magazine the Diancie event in Japan will start July19th - September 30th It will start at Level 50 and will have these moves: 'Diamond Storm'*(its signature move) 'Reflect' 'Moonblast' 'Return' And its hold item will be Normal Gem It's ability is still unknown but Hopfully it will have 'Levitate ability' or any immunity type abilities other wise pokemons like Garchomp and Heatran will have Diancie for Breakfast since its a Fairy/Rock type. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RicePigeon Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Its ability was already confirmed to be Clear Body a while back, though.. More Theorymonning time... Mega Hydreigon Dark/Dragon -> Dark/Dragon 92/105/90/125/90/98 -> 92/135/100/165/110/98 Levitate -> Tri-React* Tri-React: Base Power of attacking moves is reduced to 40%, but hits three times Something me, Xan, and Arpa came up with in Skype last night. Looking at its ability, it's basically the infamous Mega Kangaskhan's Parental Bond, but with an overall damage increase of 20% as opposed to 50%, with the ability to hit 3 times. Backed by a base 165 Sp.Atk stat, Mega Hydreigon remains as a proficient wallbreaker. The main draw, however, is that like Mega Kangaskhan's deadly combination of Parental Bond and Power-up Punch, Mega Hydreigon can make use of Tri-React and Charge Beam to gain as much as +3 towards its already high Sp.Atk, further bolstering its wallbreaking capabilities. Unlike Power-up Punch, however, Charge Beam does not have perfect accuracy, and the Sp.Atk boost only has a 70% chance of occuring rather than PuP's 100% boost rate. Factoring in accuracy, however, Mega Hydreigon's Charge Beam has a 87.57% chance of gaining at least 1 Sp.Atk boost, a 70.56% chance of gaining at least +2 Sp.Atk per use, and a 30.87% chance of gaining all three Sp.Atk boosts. A +2 Sp.Atk Mega Hydreigon is nothing to scoff at, easily taking care of many of OU's walls and defensive Pokemon, and +1 can pull its weight around as well: Offensive Calcs +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dark Pulse (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 402-474 (124.1 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dark Pulse (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 252-297 (60.0 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +2 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dark Pulse (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 188 SpD Mega Venusaur: 279-327 (76.6 - 89.8%) -- chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dragon Pulse (34 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Unaware Quagsire: 282-336 (71.6 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 336-408 (83.2 - 101.0%) -- approx 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 390-462 (101.0 - 119.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 354-417 (102.9 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Mawile: 294-348 (96.7 - 114.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 6 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 384-456 (59.8 - 71.0%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Flash Cannon (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Unaware Clefable: 198-234 (50.3 - 59.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers Recovery +2 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Charge Beam (20 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 378-450 (93.6 - 111.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock Unlike Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Hydreigon does not have access to any priority move, making it susceptible to being revenge killed by faster offensive threats, including Dragons, Fairies, and Fighting-types, and priority moves such as Ice Shard, Mach Punch, and Gale Wings Brave Bird, though it can comfortably take Sucker Punch. Though it may be able to 2HKO Unaware Clefable and OHKO Mega Mawile and Azumarill, Mega Hydreigon wants to avoid fairy-type attacks at all costs. Defensive Calcs 252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 235-277 (72.3 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 152-182 (46.7 - 56%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 146-174 (44.9 - 53.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 147-173 (45.2 - 53.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 278-330 (85.5 - 101.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 348-410 (107 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 390-462 (120 - 142.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 20 Atk Life Orb Deoxys-S Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 221-260 (68 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 264-312 (81.2 - 96%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Hydreigon: 507-601 (156 - 184.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 299-354 (92 - 108.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 84-99 (25.8 - 30.4%) -- 7.6% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 82-97 (25.2 - 29.8%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
Galvatron Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Its ability was already confirmed to be Clear Body a while back, though.. Oh I see.... Well I hope Diancie has good defense base stats other wise steel-type pokemon like Lucario will destroy it in one blow or two. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xan Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Serebii is a wondrous thing because it has Diancie's stats already. 50/100/150/100/150/50 tl;dr Carbink with better offensive capabilities and (I think it has) a better movepool.
PlasmoidThunder Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 HP is a bit crap though. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
DarkWolf13 Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 All Pokemon with very high defenses always have crappy HP... to balance out the stat total. But that didn't apply to Dugtrio... has low defenses and low HP.
Galvatron Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 All Pokemon with very high defenses always have crappy HP... to balance out the stat total. But that didn't apply to Dugtrio... has low defenses and low HP. Which is why its one of the least used pokemon . how ever It has great speed and great physical attack pretty much a glass-cannon. =P MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RicePigeon Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Dugtrio was used in previous generations (namely Gen 3 and Gen 5) as a trapper to either eliminate certain threats, notably steel types, or to revenge kill. Since Priority is everywhere this gen, coupled with the fact that it cannot trap Aegislash courtesy of Ghost types being immune to Arena Trap this gen, Dugtrio is more of a liability. Magnezone is typically better at trapping opposing Steel types not named Aegislash anyway, but even then, Excadrill and Bisharp still give it problems, and (Mega) Scizor can always escape with U-turn and outspeed variants of Magnezone with no Speed investment, though HP Fire still takes a chunk out of even bulky variants: 252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 104 SpD Mega Scizor: 260-308 (75.8 - 89.7%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mega Scizor: 432-512 (125.9 - 149.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO Offensive variants of Mega Scizor will always outspeed and can OHKO with Superpower with either hazards set up or after a swords dance boost: 252+ Atk Mega Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 282-334 (81.9 - 97%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Mega Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 282-334 (81.9 - 97%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes It should be worth noting that while Magnezone can't switch in to Bisharp directly, it can revenge kill or come in on a predicted Sucker Punch and KO a weakened Bisharp as long as it doesn't have any attack boosts (Bisharp will most likely use Knock Off to remove the specs and avoid a OHKO): 252+ SpA Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 217-256 (79.7 - 94.1%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 324-382 (119.1 - 140.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 150-177 (46.2 - 54.6%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 181-214 (55.8 - 66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock EDIT: For what its worth, a Timid Magnezone with max speed investment will always outspeed Bisharp (Jolly Bisharp simply isnt used) and score a OHKO with specs Thunderbolt, but the power drop is noticeable against other Pokemon.
Galvatron Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Dugtrio was used in previous generations (namely Gen 3 and Gen 5) as a trapper to either eliminate certain threats, notably steel types, or to revenge kill. Since Priority is everywhere this gen, coupled with the fact that it cannot trap Aegislash courtesy of Ghost types being immune to Arena Trap this gen, Dugtrio is more of a liability. Magnezone is typically better at trapping opposing Steel types not named Aegislash anyway, but even then, Excadrill and Bisharp still give it problems, and (Mega) Scizor can always escape with U-turn and outspeed variants of Magnezone with no Speed investment, though HP Fire still takes a chunk out of even bulky variants: 252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 104 SpD Mega Scizor: 260-308 (75.8 - 89.7%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mega Scizor: 432-512 (125.9 - 149.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO Offensive variants of Mega Scizor will always outspeed and can OHKO with Superpower with either hazards set up or after a swords dance boost: 252+ Atk Mega Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 282-334 (81.9 - 97%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Mega Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 282-334 (81.9 - 97%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes It should be worth noting that while Magnezone can't switch in to Bisharp directly, it can revenge kill or come in on a predicted Sucker Punch and KO a weakened Bisharp as long as it doesn't have any attack boosts (Bisharp will most likely use Knock Off to remove the specs and avoid a OHKO): 252+ SpA Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 217-256 (79.7 - 94.1%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 324-382 (119.1 - 140.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 150-177 (46.2 - 54.6%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 181-214 (55.8 - 66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock EDIT: For what its worth, a Timid Magnezone with max speed investment will always outspeed Bisharp (Jolly Bisharp simply isnt used) and score a OHKO with specs Thunderbolt, but the power drop is noticeable against other Pokemon. I see personally I wish Magnezone will have Levitation ability(hidden) that make it more better or have a mega-form. =P MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RicePigeon Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Levitate would ruin its niche as a Steel Trapper though (although Aegislash and losing Dark & Ghost resistances already kinda did that). Then again, a Mega Evo would give it back the speed that it lost when it evolved from Magneton... And it already does a fine job at neutering Skarmory and Ferrothorn
Kanbei Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 All Pokemon with very high defenses always have crappy HP... to balance out the stat total. But that didn't apply to Dugtrio... has low defenses and low HP. Dugtrio's speed makes up for that, It's not supposed to stay and fight.
PlasmoidThunder Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Like Greninja. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Xan Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 All Pokemon with very high defenses always have crappy HP... to balance out the stat total. But that didn't apply to Dugtrio... has low defenses and low HP. Giratina and Blissey say hi.
PlasmoidThunder Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Giratina's a legendary. Blissey has no physical defence. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Xan Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Giratina still counts. He never excluded legendaries and Blissey still has massive special defense and HP. :U
Kanbei Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Giratina still counts. He never excluded legendaries and Blissey still has massive special defense and HP. :U God I freakin know. My brother trolled me soo bad with that damned Blissey.
Xan Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Lol, you need to get more physical attackers. Get a Sawk or something. Scarf CC is a monster.
PlasmoidThunder Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 But that lack of Leftovers recovery or whatever doesn't bode too well. Project LG said: God knows you shit out characters like a friggin' gumball machine.
Xan Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 But Eviolite Chansey can actually take physical hits. :P
Galvatron Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 But Eviolite Chansey can actually take physical hits. :P True, but unfortunately after acouple hits from a fighter-type its pretty much KOed. =P I am surprised its evolve form 'Blissey' doesn't become a Fairy-type it would have saved it from that situation. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RicePigeon Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 But that lack of Leftovers recovery or whatever doesn't bode too well. 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 6 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 229-271 (35.6 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 313-370 (43.8 - 51.8%) -- 71.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 16+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 6 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 220-259 (34.2 - 40.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 16+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 300-354 (42 - 49.5%) -- 26.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery You were saying? But yeah, Blissey is, unfortunately, the new Dusknoir this generation.
Kanbei Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 you need to get more physical attackers. I know >_< I was unprepared... True, but unfortunately after acouple hits from a fighter-type its pretty much KOed. =P I dunno my Machamp wasn't as lucky with its dangerous DynamicPunch against it. I am surprised its evolve form 'Blissey' doesn't become a Fairy-type it would have saved it from that situation. God no then dragons will have a hard time facing it. I can't picture my poor Dragonite facing a Fairy Blissey that would be a nightmare. 0_0
Galvatron Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 6 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 229-271 (35.6 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 313-370 (43.8 - 51.8%) -- 71.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 16+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 6 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 220-259 (34.2 - 40.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 16+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 300-354 (42 - 49.5%) -- 26.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery You were saying? LOL! Good points there Unless Chansey/Blissey was critically hit. God no then dragons will have a hard time facing it. I can't picture my poor Dragonite facing a Fairy Blissey that would be a nightmare. 0_0 No Fairy Blissey. Ever. Yeah that would be scary if you think about it. Can you imagine Blissey having a mega-form: Mega-Blissey Normal-type ---> Fairy-type Base stat: 255/10/10/75/135/55 --> Base stat mega-form: 255/30/30/100/150/75 ability: Natural Cure --> Natural Healer(increases HP recovery power by 20%) Man!! Their is No way in hell you can KOed it in a couple hits unless lucky enough to hit with a one-KO move like Horn-Drill, Fissure, etc. MARVEL VS. TOUHOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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