[Gen6][3DS] Pokemon X & Y

[RicePigeon]

Gen 4/5 RNG = instant 6IV ditto

[PlasmoidThunder]

Thing is, who would want a 6 IV Pokémon other than mixed Pokémon and Ditto?

 

If you've got an Sp. Attack-based Pokémon, giving it max Attack would hinder it during confusion.

[DarkWolf13]

The reason why I want a 6 IV Ditto is because I haven't got any luck breeding with the 2 IV and 4 IV Dittos I have. I keep wounding up with mostly 2-3 IV Pokemon and sometimes 1 IV or Pokemon with IVs less than 31. The only luck is if I get a 4 IV Pokemon... I haven't been able to obtain anymore 5 IV Pokemon since hatching a Pancham with 31/31/31/0/31/31.

[Galvatron]

Is it even possible to get a 6 IV Ditto breeding/ wild catch at all? Or to make it hard try catching a Shiny one if your lucky. =P

[RicePigeon]

Is it even possible to get a 6 IV Ditto breeding/ wild catch at all? Or to make it hard try catching a Shiny one if your lucky. =P

 

As I already said, Gen 4/5 RNG manipulation, but that requires Pokebank. Only way to do it within Gen 6 is to get lucky. That or GTS/Pokecheck.

[Galvatron]

As I already said, Gen 4/5 RNG manipulation, but that requires Pokebank. Only way to do it within Gen 6 is to get lucky. That or GTS/Pokecheck.

Yeah if Nintendo/Gamefreak will ever release PokeBank in the US/EU regions.  >=(

 

but I guess we won't expect that tell next month. =P

[PlasmoidThunder]

Heheh. N-Mario's Ditto safari >:)

[RicePigeon]

Was having a little discussion with Noob in the chat about the merits of using Choice Specs on his Glaceon and/or Jolteon, and since I promised him some calcs against common defensive Pokemon:

 

252 SpAtk Timid Choice Specs Glaceon Ice Beam vs:

• 252 HP 0 SpDef Rotom Wash: 104~123 (34.21%~40.46%) (Guaranteed 3HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Multiscale Dragonite: 326~384 (84.46%~99.48%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Tyranitar: 107~126 (26.49%~31.19%) (Guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Assault Vest Tyranitar: 72~85 (17.82%~21.04%) (0.3% Chance to 5HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Assault Vest Goodra: 160-189 (41.67%~49.22%) (43.8% Chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 209~247 (50.48%~59.66%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 153~180 (36.96%~43.48%) (Guaranteed 3HKO)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Shield Forme Aegislash: 78~92 (24.07%~28.40%) (3.7% Chance to 5HKO after Leftovers)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Sylveon: 176~208 (44.67%~52.79%) (37.5% Chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock + Leftovers)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Sylveon: 133~157 (33.76%~39.85%) (1.5% Chance to 4HKO after Leftovers)

252 SpAtk Timid Choice Specs Glaceon Shadow Ball vs:

• 252 HP 0 SpDef Rotom Wash: 124~146 (40.78%~48.03%) (18.8% Chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Shield Forme Aegislash:185~218 (57.10%~67.28%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)

[Galvatron]

 

Was having a little discussion with Noob in the chat about the merits of using Choice Specs on his Glaceon and/or Jolteon, and since I promised him some calcs against common defensive Pokemon:

 

252 SpAtk Timid Choice Specs Glaceon Ice Beam vs:

• 252 HP 0 SpDef Rotom Wash: 104~123 (34.21%~40.46%) (Guaranteed 3HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Multiscale Dragonite: 326~384 (84.46%~99.48%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Tyranitar: 107~126 (26.49%~31.19%) (Guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Assault Vest Tyranitar: 72~85 (17.82%~21.04%) (0.3% Chance to 5HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Assault Vest Goodra: 160-189 (41.67%~49.22%) (43.8% Chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 209~247 (50.48%~59.66%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 153~180 (36.96%~43.48%) (Guaranteed 3HKO)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Shield Forme Aegislash: 78~92 (24.07%~28.40%) (3.7% Chance to 5HKO after Leftovers)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Sylveon: 176~208 (44.67%~52.79%) (37.5% Chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock + Leftovers)
• 252 HP 252 SpDef (+SpDef) Sylveon: 133~157 (33.76%~39.85%) (1.5% Chance to 4HKO after Leftovers)

252 SpAtk Timid Choice Specs Glaceon Shadow Ball vs:

• 252 HP 0 SpDef Rotom Wash: 124~146 (40.78%~48.03%) (18.8% Chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock)
• 252 HP 0 SpDef Shield Forme Aegislash:185~218 (57.10%~67.28%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)

 

Hmm.Thanks for the odds calculations Rice though I might just give Glaceon Choice Scarf since it has low-mid average speed as we discussed. That last Battle we had was pretty cool at least it went down to the wire between our last surviving pokemon.

[RicePigeon]

Ah, right, completely forgot about Choice Scarf calcs.

 

With Choice Scarf, Timid, and max Speed investment, your speed hits 376 at lv 100 (128 at lv 50), which basically lets you outspeed everything except the following:

 

Note: Common Choice Scarfed Pokemon in red, minimum EVs required to outspeed Scarf Timid Glaceon in parenthesis. Pokemon that require a positive speed nature will be in bold. Numbers on the left assume maximum speed EV investment. Pokemon requiring a stat boost move will be in blue.

 

472: Terrakion (0 speed)

459: Deoxys-Speed (0 speed)

454: Garchomp (48 speed)

448: Salamence (64 speed)

445: Genesect (72 speed)

442: Hydreigon (80 speed)

419: Ninjask (84 speed)

406: Rotom-Wash, Rotom-Heat (176 speed)

405: Mega Manectric (148 speed)

399: Mega Alakazam, Mega Aerodactyl, Deoxys-Attack, Deoxys-Normal (164 speed)

397: Mega Tyranitar (+1 Dragon Dance, 208 speed)

394: Jolteon, Aerodactyl, Mewtwo, Mega Mewtwo X, Crobat (188 speed)

390: Meloetta-Pirouette (204 speed)

389: Accelgor (204 speed)

388: Shaymin-Sky (212 speed), Chandelure (224 speed), Dragonite (+1 Dragon Dance, 224 speed)

386: Talonflame (220 speed) (nobody runs speed natures on Talonflame, so you dont have to worry about this)

383: Weavile, Darkrai, Swellow (228 speed)

379: Electrode, Mega Mewtwo Y, Noivern (244 speed)

377: Greninja (252 speed)

[Galvatron]

Ah, right, completely forgot about Choice Scarf calcs.

 

With Choice Scarf, Timid, and max Speed investment, your speed hits 376 at lv 100 (128 at lv 50), which basically lets you outspeed everything except the following:

 

Note: Common Choice Scarfed Pokemon in red, minimum EVs required to outspeed Scarf Timid Glaceon in parenthesis. Pokemon that require a positive speed nature will be in bold. Numbers on the left assume maximum speed EV investment. Pokemon requiring a stat boost move will be in blue.

 

472: Terrakion (0 speed)

459: Deoxys-Speed (0 speed)

454: Garchomp (48 speed)

448: Salamence (64 speed)

445: Genesect (72 speed)

442: Hydreigon (80 speed)

419: Ninjask (84 speed)

406: Rotom-Wash, Rotom-Heat (176 speed)

405: Mega Manectric (148 speed)

399: Mega Alakazam, Mega Aerodactyl, Deoxys-Attack, Deoxys-Normal (164 speed)

397: Mega Tyranitar (+1 Dragon Dance, 208 speed)

394: Jolteon, Aerodactyl, Mewtwo, Mega Mewtwo X, Crobat (188 speed)

390: Meloetta-Pirouette (204 speed)

389: Accelgor (204 speed)

388: Shaymin-Sky (212 speed), Chandelure (224 speed), Dragonite (+1 Dragon Dance, 224 speed)

386: Talonflame (220 speed) (nobody runs speed natures on Talonflame, so you dont have to worry about this)

383: Weavile, Darkrai, Swellow (228 speed)

379: Electrode, Mega Mewtwo Y, Noivern (244 speed)

377: Greninja (252 speed)

Hmm! I see.  thanks. =)

[RicePigeon]

So it looks like Mega Lucario might finally get the boot (Genesect and Deoxys-Speed as well). We'll just have to wait until the 9th and see.

[Galvatron]

So it looks like Mega Lucario might finally get the boot (Genesect and Deoxys-Speed as well). We'll just have to wait until the 9th and see.

Yeah though I think they souldn't give Mega Lucario the boot quite quickly the fact Its type is still has alot of vulnerability.

 

Thats just my opinion. =P

[RicePigeon]

http://motoringcrunch.com/news/pokebank-servers-down/1005093/

 

I told you guys. I told you about the Pokebank. It keeps happening,

[Kanbei]

http://motoringcrunch.com/news/pokebank-servers-down/1005093/

 

I told you guys. I told you about the Pokebank. It keeps happening,

I'm starting to think, they are going capcom on us...  DAMMIT NINTENDO!

[Xan]

>so many people use Pokebank it breaks the servers

>blames nintendo

those guys have some serious sensemake going on there

[Galvatron]

http://motoringcrunch.com/news/pokebank-servers-down/1005093/

 

I told you guys. I told you about the Pokebank. It keeps happening,

[sigh] .......Come On Man!!

 

[edit post]

 

 

Oh well looks like I'll keep on 'Wonder trading' tell then.....

 

Nook I do have Snivy and Puplup ready for trade when you have the time.Also if any one else needs them I have plenty to trade for as well.

 

Going to start Breeding some Chikorita now....

[Kanbei]

Going to start Breeding some Chikorita now....

Good to hear, hey how are my shinys, have you traded them yet?

[CozySquirtle]

http://motoringcrunch.com/news/pokebank-servers-down/1005093/

 

I told you guys. I told you about the Pokebank. It keeps happening,

 

I give up on PokeBank ever being released in the US... This is so bullshit...

[MugoUrth]

I will remain patient, unlike most people I've noticed. There are far worse things to complain over.

[DarkWolf13]

This is just making me regret getting XY... I like the game overall and got used to the new Pokemon, but I DO NOT want to re-obtain the Pokemon ALL over again and they'll be lacking good moves if I did.

[MugoUrth]

I just don't see what the big deal is. Complaining about it isn't gonna make it come any faster.

[RicePigeon]

There are far worse things to complain over.

 

Like Genesect and MegaLucario

[MugoUrth]

...I must be using MegaLucario wrong. What's a good set?

[RicePigeon]

Swords Dance set with Close Combat, physical priority move, and a coverage move, or Nasty Plot set with Vacuum Wave + 2 Attacks.

 

Both are ridiculously overpowered, no Pokemon can counter both sets besides Zapdos, Moltres, and bulky Gyarados, where the former requires PokeBank in order to OHKO M.Lucario back, and all three are weak to Stealth Rock, which increases the chance of an OHKO on M.Lucario's side.