Dumanios

I completely forgot ORAS gave Greninja the gift of STAB Low Kick. And Low Kick also takes care of Regice. I imagine Regirock would be slightly better off, but that's more to the sheer bulk of it rather than it's type + weight. And I imagine that in a world with Regis + Recover, Low Kick Greninja (and others) would become (even) more common.

Fight fire with fire, as they say.

Alright.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Legendary_golems#Similar_movesets Given that the Regis, even compared to other trios, share large parts of their movesets, perhaps Regice and Registeel can also obtain Recover, alongside Regirock. With that in mind, I think Regirock and Registeel, given Recover, could become OU. Regice probably won't become OU due to the fact that A: Ice is a shitty type for defense and B: Most of the S and A rank Pokemon in OU hit for a weakness or Regice's weaker physical defense, but I imagine Regice + Recover could become UU. Regice With the obtaining of Recover, Regice no longer needs to run a Berry+Rest set, but can even recover help Regice survive the higher tiers, especially considering the prevalence of fire types in OU? Eh... 252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 109-133 (29.9 - 36.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Regice Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 216-256 (75.5 - 89.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock. Regice can heal the damage it take from Greninja, or strike back hard against the watery ninja. 252 SpA Life Orb Thundurus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 164-195 (45 - 53.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Regice Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus: 296-350 (98.9 - 117%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock. With Recover, Regice can heal most or all the damage Thundurus deals, or he could go for a OHKO with Ice Beam. 232 SpA Mega Gardevoir Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Regice: 154-183 (42.3 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 111-132 (30.4 - 36.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery. +2 252 SpA Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 129-153 (35.4 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO. Even after a Nasty Plot, Gengar can only 3HKO Regice. 252 SpA Life Orb Latias Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Regice: 152-179 (41.7 - 49.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 121-144 (33.2 - 39.5%) -- 19.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery. 252+ SpA Mega Alakazam Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 178-210 (48.9 - 57.6%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery +2 252 SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 299-354 (82.1 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +2 252 SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 265-313 (72.8 - 85.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Hydreigon requires a Nasty Plot to do big damage against Regice, and Regice can 2HKO Hydreigon with Ice Beam, or OHKO with Blizzard. 252 SpA Regice Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 270-318 (82.8 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Regice Blizzard vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 326-386 (100 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Azelf Explosion vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Regice: 264-311 (72.5 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. +2 252 SpA Life Orb Azelf Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 299-354 (82.1 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Depending on the set Azelf carries, Regice + Recover can take it, though Nasty Plot Azelfs might also carry Psyshock, which becomes likely to OHKO after a Nasty Plot: +2 252 SpA Life Orb Azelf Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Regice: 329-387 (90.3 - 106.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO 252+ SpA Mega Launcher Mega Blastoise Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 146-174 (40.1 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Life Orb Raikou Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Regice: 87-103 (23.9 - 28.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery Better for our icy golem. His typing is still pretty bleh, but with recover, he's much better. Registeel The one golem to be RU, mostly due to his good defensive typing (10 resistances and one immunity? Nice). His mixed defenses mean that he's not as good a physical defender as Regirock, and not as good a special defender as Regice. But I imagine his typing would make up for that, and with Recover, well... 252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 120-143 (32.9 - 39.2%) -- 13% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 109-129 (29.9 - 35.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery. +2 252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 148-175 (40.6 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery +2 252 SpA Life Orb Latios Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 138-162 (37.9 - 44.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Latios requires a Calm Mind or two to be able to hit Registeel well, and Registeel can always deal damage to Latios with say, Seismic Toss. 252+ Atk Mega Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 182-216 (50 - 59.3%) -- 80.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. The low end of this attack does exactly the same amount of damage as what Recover would do. Add Leftovers and Protect and the Iron Giant can tank Mega Metagross. 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 168-198 (46.1 - 54.3%) -- 5.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. Completely healed by Recover and leftovers. 232 SpA Mega Gardevoir Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 84-100 (23 - 27.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. Totally healed from one Recover. 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 115-136 (31.5 - 37.3%) -- 20.9% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. +2 252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 133-156 (36.5 - 42.8%) -- 98.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery +2 252 SpA Life Orb Latias Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 123-146 (33.7 - 40.1%) -- 32.7% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Same deal as Latios, really. 252 Atk Mega Pinsir Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 174-206 (47.8 - 56.5%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. 252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 204-240 (56 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. Much of that can be healed with Recover, and the rest with Leftovers + Protect. Unfortunately, some Talonflame's run Swords Dance, thus: 0 SpA Registeel Thunderbolt vs. 120 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 138-164 (42.2 - 50.1%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 402-474 (110.4 - 130.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO If Registeel doesn't get a OHKO and Talonflame sets up, then the Iron Giant's gonna go down. Regirock Rice already went over Regirock, but here's some more calcs to show off this Golem's bulk. +1 252+ Atk Mega Charizard X Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Regirock: 178-210 (48.9 - 57.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Regirock: 186-218 (51 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. 252+ Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Regirock: 138-164 (37.9 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery. 4 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Regirock: 150-176 (41.2 - 48.3%) -- 7.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Regirock: 177-211 (48.6 - 57.9%) -- 53.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Now imagine this thing with Recover... yeah. I'd say definitely OU material.

This was fun.

Chars used: Remilia by Mikage and Utsuho by Biyo Defeated by: Lie Meiling by RicePigeon and Football Len.

KFM: Motherfucker, you hit me in the dick!

I reuped Shiroto's Ciel to my Mediafire.

rip in peace raymoo

In that case...

I was thinking more like [blank]Wood, myself.

@Everyone: This is your mom: And this is your dad: And this is you: You one ugly motherfucker.

*grabs a big 'ol handful* *eats them*

But what would it be called? Dragoniteite? :p

Montezuma.

That's mostly a side-effect of how they did the most recent tier-moveabouts. They lost a ton of data, so they had to rely on much smaller amount of info. Thus, they changed the numbers needed to move a mon up or down a tier.

So Raichu can finally aim for the horn and get somewhere. Does Ground Wire work against non-ground types with Lightningrod?

This turned out longer than I had expected. EDIT: Another vid. It's a bit cheesy.

Hmm... interesting.

Chesnaught 4 win. Hmm... while DOU isn't too kind to Chesnaught, does the grass fighter prosper in DUU?

Hmm... here's some ideas. Sephiroth, He-Man Zellode, and Nightmare Broly, by Gulthor. God Orochi, by Ahuron Joutenchi, by Jay Any ONI-MIKO character, by Lunatic Alma Orochi, by Alma Any of TOPS' DBZ characters Rare Akuma, by POTS M-Reimu/Goddess Reimu, by Okihaito Carlos/Gajardo the Stickman and God Idiot Stick, by Josh Geary

With Rice's altered stats, here's some new calcs for Mega Moltres. 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Metagross in Sun: 620-732 (170.3 - 201%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gardevoir in Sun: 261-307 (94.2 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO vs. 232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Moltres: 144-170 (44.8 - 52.9%) -- 28.1% chance to 2HKO. They both have 100 Base Speed, so it relies more on Nature and EVs. 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Normal Landorkus in Sun: 406-478 (127.2 - 149.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO. Landorus' speed is very slightly higher than Mega Moltres', at 101 vs. 100. Depending on how Landorus' EVs are assigned, or if he has a Choice Scarf, Mega Moltres can outspeed Landorkus and OHKO with either Fire Blast or Solar Beam... or get outsped and possibly die to Stone Edge. 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T in Sun: 406-478 (106.2 - 125.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO. With this matchup, Mega Moltres has a lot less to worry about speedwise. Still, if Landorus is given Choice Scarf, then he outspeeds and oneshots with Rock coverage. 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gyarados: 260-308 (78.5 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO vs. 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Moltres in Sun: 150-176 (46.7 - 54.8%) -- 56.6% chance to 2HKO. Mega Moltres outspeeds and can 2HKO. Even if Mega Gyarados takes a turn to set up with Dragn Dance, he still only 2HKOs. 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 310-366 (101.9 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO. 252+ SpA Mega Moltres Fire Blast vs. 28 HP / 80 SpD Gengar in Sun: 387-456 (144.4 - 170.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Mega Moltres U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Latios: 162-192 (53.8 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock. It'll also 2HKO Mega Latias and the unmegaed forms. On the other hand, Moltres gets outsped by the Latis, Megaed or otherwise. Still, if the Latis decide to set up instead of attack, they can take some serious damage.