RicePigeon

Koishi updated Minor visual adjustments.

IZ Yukari updated [System] Fixed bug that prevented Spellcards from being used during Spell Overdrive if Power is less than 1000. [System] Type-C alignment now allows up to two air dashes. [System] Wallbounces and Groundbounces can now be teched. [System] Hitstun values for attacks now use static values based on assigned attack level. Frame data adjusted to compensate for this change: 5x: Recovery decreased by 2f (Lv 1). 5y: Recovery decreased by 3f (Lv 2). 6y: Recovery decreased by 1f (Lv 3). 5z: Startup decreased by 2f, Recovery decreased by 4f (Lv 4). 6z: Recovery decreased by 7f (Lv 4). 6zz: Recovery decreased by 4f (Lv 4). 2x: Recovery decreased by 2f (Lv 1). 2y: Recovery decreased by 2f (Lv 2). 2z: Startup decreased by 2f, Recovery decreased by 4f (Lv 4). j5x: No change in animation data (Lv 2). j5y: No change in animation data (Lv 2). j5z: Startup decreased by 2f (Lv 4). j2z: Startup decreased by 2f (Lv 4). Bewitching Bait: No change in animation data (Lv 4). Illusion Manji Parasol: Recovery decreased by 4f (Lv 4). Illusionary Rift X: Recovery decreased by 10f (Lv 4). Illusionary Rift Y: Recovery decreased by 3f (Lv 4). Illusionary Rift Z: Recovery decreased by 3f (Lv 4). Full Moon Umbrella: No change in animation data (Lv 4). Fantasy Firefly Nest: Recovery decreased by 4f (Lv 4). Graveyard Flotsam: No change in animation data (Lv 4). "Unmanned Abandoned Railroad Car Bomb": No change in animation data (Lv 5). "Ran Yakumo & Chen": No change in animation data (Lv 5). "Phantasm, Foam & Shadow": Recovery decreased by 9f (Lv 5).

Please don't link to blacklisted websites.

At this point any further posts in this thread regarding or asking for citations or evidence about which hosting services are malicious or not will be construed as deliberate flame baiting and/or provocation and will be deleted on sight + the poster infracted. We've been through this same shitty song & dance routine many times before. This stops now.

Auer's original character and the final boss of Touhou: Gensokyo Reloaded, has been released. Get her in the Characters section. Link: http://ricepigeon.neocities.org First release.

Right, no more derailing the thread with petty shit and threats of legal action & other harassment. This goes for everyone.

@yuri linda I'm going to ask that you keep it civil here. Plasmoid and Flare are both entitled to their opinions and ultimately because Plas is the curator of this collection thread, it's ultimately up to him to decide if the characters you want added are of sufficient quality to be added to the collection or not. In Flare's defense, his statement was based on the observation that the majority of the characters you want added are, in fact, sprite swaps and/or hastily edited from other characters with little to no attempt done to differentiate them from the base character, which can be construed moreso as an objective observation rather than a subjective opinion, so please don't attack others purely because he said something you may or may not agree with. This goes for both sides.

@yuri linda Either keep it civil and add something relevant to the discussion at hand or expect another infraction to be handed out, especially if you're going to start slinging insults at others again.

Before I bring this up for discussion with the other mods on whether or not we should remove the character from the collection (as this constitutes borderline harassment), can I ask what possessed you to think it was a good idea to add this to the collection? EDIT: Aaand removed.

If the author wanted to use english language clips then that's the author's decision. More than likely english is the author's native language and would prefer to hear something that makes sense, instead of inadvertently adding a language that they're not familiar and end up in an embarassing situation where the character ends up saying something like "suck my a-hole" for a Normal move or something. Just move on from it, it's honestly not that big a deal in comparison to stuff that actually matters, like the gameplay.

Marisa updated Voice added courtesy of PlasmoidThunder. 1 New palette added. Miasma Sweep: Fixed IKEMEN-exclusive bug with invincibility.

Just to clarify, the poll wasn't intended to be a determining factor in our final decision, but we wanted to get a feeling of what public opinion on the subject was.

Major Patchouli update. Fixed bugs with cancels & command processing. Updated command inputs to current standards (courtesy of Plasmoidthunder). Adjustments to hurtboxes on certain system animations. Slight adjustments to airdash behaviors. 5x: Hitbox size increased. 5y: Hitbox position adjusted. New Command Normal: 6z. 2y: Hitbox & Hurtbox adjusted. 3z: Velocity increased. j5y: Hitbox now remains consistent during all active frames. j5z: Hitbox position adjusted. Summer Red: Hitstun & Blockstun decreased by 13f. Summer Red [Ground]: Recovery decreased by 13f. Summer Red [Air]: Now induces recoil, button press now determines angle. Spring Wind: Removed. Replaced with Sylphae Horn. Winter Element: Fixed bug with juggle flags, startup reduced by 1f. "Philosopher's Stone": Duration decreased (1200f->840f), chip damage on crystal projectiles decreased (5xN->2xN).

Reisen & Yuyuko updated Illusionary Blast: Fixed bug regarding crossup inputs. Grounded backdash arc adjusted. j5z: Hitbox extended downward on first few active frames, now causes a soft knockdown. Ghost Butterfly: Now disappears if Yuyuko is hit. Butterfly Dream Dance: Startup on all versions decreased by 1f. Butterfly Dream Dance [Y ver]: Damage increased (120->130). Butterfly Dream Dance [Z ver]: Damage increased (120/100->130/110).

I find it funny how I'm the "corrupt" mod when I'm the one who advocated for the site to be removed from the blacklist in the OP. That being said, if neither of you are going to keep it civil in this thread then I'm going to have to ask you to refrain from posting here or risk disciplinary action.

The "war", from what I gather, seems to be primarily a propaganda tool used by some affiliated users to harass & intimidate authors and other communities while simultaneously stirring up interest in MA. It originally started as retaliation to MFG taking disciplinary action on some of their users for essentially spamming the forum with advertisements for MA, it just evolved from there to include any author or mugen community who speak negatively about them.

Of course we're not, but if we were going to blacklist sites for that reason then MMV would have been blacklisted ages ago, and we should remain consistent in our policy. I honestly don't think it's fair to associate the actions of a site's staff with the site itself unless, as I previously stated, they are actively trying to undermine the security of MFFA or it's users through the use of malwares, viruses, etc. So far the only thing Mugen Archive has done (if they're even directly associated at all) are the white knights popping in and proselytizing their mugen community of choice every now and then, which is ultimately harmless.

While I can't speak for MFG, I do know that the ethical concerns surrounding the money was a secondary reason why they blacklisted Archive, in addition to the use of adfly. The only justification for MFFA's blacklist was the adfly usage, which no longer applies. Unless the other staff agree to use their financial practices as justification for continuing to blacklist Archive, the assumption should be made that the basis of the blacklist should solely be their adfly usage or lack thereof. My problem with this argument, which I've already addressed in the first post, is that this could be used to justify blacklisting other sites which aren't currently blacklisted. A good example that comes to mind would be MMV 5-6 years ago, when they were actively trying to persuade their users to boycott and undermine MFG. Then again, that was an issue between MFG and MMV which had nothing to do with us, but to the best of my knowledge MMV has never been blacklisted from here because of that. Do we condone what MA's staff do? I would assume not. But if we went the route you're suggesting, we would have to retroactively apply that same logic to other sites. The use of alternate links could still be encouraged on the basis of reliability (again, regarding the aforementioned community weekend events that temporarily make downloads unavailable to non-registered users). Of course, this would be something that would be up to the discretion of the ones responsible for creating the collection threads, rather than something that staff would actively police as we are currently doing. Had they been reinstating the ad referrals on a more frequent basis then I don't think we'd even be having this discussion in the first place. Afaik, it's only happened once so far and their current policy has been in place for some time that I think we can confidently consider the idea of de-blacklisting them without fear of such a decision biting us in the rear too soon. If they decide to reinstate adfly 2 years from now then that's a different story and we'll handle it then. This isn't really about traffic, and I don't think it ever was. MFG's basis for the blacklist was both the adfly usage and monetization, while ours was based solely on the adfly usage. While it is true that there is an overlap between members of MFFA that are also members of MFG, the same can easily be said of any other mugen community that this really shouldn't be a factor in decision making. A few other places such as Mugen Database have also blacklisted Archive on the basis of their ad referrals. If our policies coincide with MFG's, then that would just be pure coincidence, not evidence of collusion. Additionally, there's an inherent risk involved with direct hosting files on our server, including legal problems which should be self-explanatory, so I won't list those here. For starters, we just recently had bandwidth issues over the past few months, and that's without direct hosting content. The other big factor is that creations, especially recent ones, tend to get updated rather frequently and it would be more convenient to simply link to the author's web page/onedrive so that we can guarantee those visiting our collections can find the most up-to-date version of a creation. The only real instances where we use third-party hosting like mediafire in our collection threads is when the author's site is offline and no longer available and the author is currently inactive, or if the author's site/download links utilize a blacklisted url such as mugenarchive or 4shared.

Lie Meiling, Kanako, & Utsuho updated Fixed bug where Lie would be unable to perform a grab in certain situations. 2x: Hitbox repositioned. Startup increased by 1f. 2y: Recovery increased by 4f, now hits Mid. j5z: Startup increased by 2f. Movement velocities slightly adjusted. 5y: Recovery increased by 2f. 2y: Damage decreased (80->70). j5y: Damage decreased (90->80). j5z: Damage decreased (125->110), hitboxes adjusted, now causes a Knockdown. j6z: Damage decreased (110->100). Control Rod [Lv 2]: Recovery increased by 6f on ground versions. Control Rod [Lv 3]: Recovery increased by 6f on ground versions.

Alright, I'm sure many of you are familiar with Archive in recent years and this is something that I have brought up in private with the rest of the staff, but I would like some public feedback regarding a possible change in our policy regarding MFFA links. This thread isn't meant to guarantee a certain outcome, but we feel some public feedback may help influence our final decision. For those of you who are unaware, back in June of 2016, we made the decision to blacklist any and all download links from Mugen Archive in light of their decision to use Adfly as their primary source of revenue. You can read about our reasoning for this decision here. In recent months, however, it would seem that Mugen Archive has turned to another source of ad revenue and have discontinued their use of Adfly/Shortest, thus, no longer posing the security threat that we originally blacklisted them for. Because the sole basis of our decision no longer applies, I feel that it's appropriate to finally lift this ban that has been in effect for the past two years. Others that I have spoken to did have some concerns that could potentially be used against this decision. Notably, the biggest concern deals with Archive's "Community Weekend" events, which temporarily throttle and/or disable downloads for non-registered users, making them unreliable hosting. While this is true, the same could easily be said of other sites like sendspace, which are not currently blacklisted. Unlike sites such as 4shared, which require registration, the same does not apply to Archive, despite the aforementioned limitations. While this may not affect release threads too much, this could be a concern for those hoping to use archive links in collection threads. I just want to reiterate that the conduct of certain MA members, unless they are actively compromising the security of MFFA or its members, shouldn't play a factor in this decision; this deals primarily with the linking to hosted downloads, if a member of MA is caught breaking the rules of MFFA's forums or discord chat, they will be handled with as we would any other user, independently of any other Mugen community they may be associated with. That being said, I would like to know what everyone's thoughts on this idea are.

Sakuya updated Fixed missing FX on dashes. 2z: Hitbox adjusted. Cross-up Magic [Ground]: L and M versions now have startup invincibility. Time Paradox: Melee hits no longer hit overhead.

Cirno updated 2 new palettes added. Icicle Sword: Now forces a crouching opponent into standing state on hit. Icicle Sword: Now properly pushes against crouching opponents.

Youmu & Suika updated Youmu now gains slight damage increases on her Normals starting on Spirit Lvl 3. Slash of Life & Death: Damage on 1st & 2nd hits increased (30/35/40->35/40/45). Crescent Moon Slash: Base damage on 1st hit increased (80/60/60->85/65/65). Heart Carving Cut: Now gains slight damage increase starting on Spirit Lvl 3. 2y: Now causes an untechable knockdown. Kidnapping Oni: All versions are now a command grab. Damage increased (100/140/190->140/170/200).

Reimu, Yuuka, Flandre, & Reisen updated 6x: Adjusted wallbounce behavior on counterhit. j.5z: Air Hitstun increased (14f->20f). Rain Dance [X ver]: Startup decreased by 2f. Rain Dance [Y ver]: Startup decreased by 2f. [System] Fixes to input priorities. Guard Cancel: Startup Invuln time increased by 2f. Fantasic Spring Flowers: Command changed to D,D+x/y/z Thorny Rose: Command changed to D,DF,F+x/y/z Flowers in the Wind: Now has full startup invincibility. Down version removed. Fixed minor sprite errors. Starbow Break [X ver]: Adjusted recoil velocity on block. Starbow Break [Y ver]: Landing recovery increased by 4f. Starbow Break B: Landing recovery increased by 4f. "Laevatein": Can no longer be blocked low, can now be airblocked. Fixed cloning bug on chaining of Reisen's Normals.

IZ Yukari updated with several system changes [System] Fixed bugs with counterhit system. [System] Juggle & Reset system replaced with hitstun decay & air tech. [System] Revised behavior of wallbounce hits. [System] Dash behavior adjusted. [System] Added visual indicator for when Throw Escapes can be done. [System] Guard Cancels can no longer deal damage nor be cancelled into Spellcards. [System] New System mechanic: Crush Attack (Type-A Only). [System] "Spell Rage" Damage boost decreased from 20% to 15%. j2H: Proration decreased (90%->75%). Illusion Rift: Now has a RDP+A version while Dimensional Gap is active. "Phantasm, Foam & Shadow": Now has complete startup invulnerability on Level 1 & 2 charges.