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volzzilla

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17 minutes ago, Laharl said:

I understand this was apparently leaked but its possible he did not know that and was just linking a thing he saw on AK1. It's unfortunate but nothing we can really do about it.

i ask you to please remove the links from AK on this forum so they are not spread more

A comic focused Mugen community: http://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/forum

But we do alot of other stuff too :)

Red Chariot MFFA Legend

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16 hours ago, volzzilla said:

congrats, you are spreading un-released content before its official release

On the defense of my friend Kyosuke, isn't "un-released" content. Because this characters are inside Pilgrim's game and that game was released recently. In other words isn't unreleased content because she herself released the game.

 

Unreleased would be stuff like Kenshiro's commissions which he has done previously but this time, he didn't break the rules. As for Anderson's links... Hey, is better than MA's links and is where Kyosuke decided to upload them, I'm not going to be demanding him to change the place since he doesn't feel like posting on Mediafire and Emaserranista posts them on the collection under Mega links.

Laharl Ancient Omniscience

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Thanks for more info. I would say nothing is going to happen regarding this.

 

@volzzillathat is not going to happen as the chars fit into this collection for Emas to add when he returns.

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4 hours ago, Red Chariot said:

On the defense of my friend Kyosuke, isn't "un-released" content. Because this characters are inside Pilgrim's game and that game was released recently. In other words isn't unreleased content because she herself released the game.

 

Unreleased would be stuff like Kenshiro's commissions which he has done previously but this time, he didn't break the rules. As for Anderson's links... Hey, is better than MA's links and is where Kyosuke decided to upload them, I'm not going to be demanding him to change the place since he doesn't feel like posting on Mediafire and Emaserranista posts them on the collection under Mega links.

pilgrim is a guy. twice now you mis-gendered.

 

and i wasnt saying anything about taking down the AK1 links at AK1. 

 

i was hoping that the the post here spreading whatever would be removed because this kyosuke person disregarded pilgrim's wishes and those individual links would be spread less throughout the internet.  at the link for release, the very 2nd post said, the new stand alone things will be  released in mugen conversion versions.

 

https://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/t17705-marvel-super-heroes-2-ikemen-full-game-release-halloween-event-2025

A comic focused Mugen community: http://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/forum

But we do alot of other stuff too :)

Red Chariot MFFA Legend

Red Chariot

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35 minutes ago, volzzilla said:

pilgrim is a guy. twice now you mis-gendered.

 

and i wasnt saying anything about taking down the AK1 links at AK1. 

 

i was hoping that the the post here spreading whatever would be removed because this kyosuke person disregarded pilgrim's wishes and those individual links would be spread less throughout the internet.  at the link for release, the very 2nd post said, the new stand alone things will be  released in mugen conversion versions.

 

https://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/t17705-marvel-super-heroes-2-ikemen-full-game-release-halloween-event-2025

Curious, some Karl guy said Pilgrim was a she. But not the case here

 

2- It sounds more like you're projecting your opinion because in that post, there's never a warning to not post the characters outside, neither in Pilgrim's own channel. Second, Kyosuke posted them so go complain with him, just a warning. He really doesn't care anyway. I have had arguments with him about posting private commissions and he doesn't listen, so good luck

 

3-What's the difference between the links you posted and the ones posted by Kyosuke then? Apart of different ports... In the end, is all up to Emas to pick whatever links he wants.

 

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volzzilla

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projecting opinion?

 

very few in the mugen community know pilgrim as well as i do, maybe none. we've been friends since he called himself avalon. i know for a fact he said to me that he hoped the new things would stay out of warehouse uploads as long as possible so as the focus would be on people downloading his game. 

 

it is why me and him crafted the idea for 2nd post in the topic to announce that the new stand alone characters would get stand alone releases in the near future. saying something like that, we thought, would be better than giving some warning to not upload.

 

on this kyosuke guy, i'm not going to go make an account on AK or track him down wherever. the extent of my hopes here was mostly to get the staffs ear to remove the links here (i failed). beyond that, i did however have a hope  for you to take the game authors account to not be a party of overly spreading the individual links which is probably a fail too since you care more about this kyosuke guy than the authors wishes.

A comic focused Mugen community: http://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/forum

But we do alot of other stuff too :)

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I mean I know Kyosuke in real life, I know he doesn't care if something that was supposed to be private leaks. I'm sorry if Pilgrim's wishes weren't taken into account but from Kyosuke's perspective, he will just say "Mugen is free"

 

He did that recently to me with a character he wasn't supposed to post, but I'm not his father to tell him what to upload or not. The moment he saw these characters, he went on his way to posts them. He did the same with the MvC X characters too

 

So there's that. 

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volzzilla

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idk why you keep mentioning this guy.

 

it was your choice to post the AK links here. and it was your choice to try and say i was "projecting" even though i proved that i was not. it was also your choice when i made a plea for you to edit the AK links out of this forum based off of pilgrim's hope his game would be the focus and you choose to refuse. kyosuke has zero bearing on any of that.

A comic focused Mugen community: http://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/forum

But we do alot of other stuff too :)

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*Sigh*

 

Is mugen content, from marvel especifically. They work well on normal mugen builds. I posted them for Emas for when he returns, he can just get them and add them

 

Now I don't know what is your beef with AK1's site, nor do I care. Kyosuke posted them there, I didn't told him but I believe that if Pilgrim's game is good, then it will be able to stand on its feet with or without exclusive characters, that mentality that the game isn't worth anything without the exclusive characters is just being over the top.

Laharl Ancient Omniscience

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easy solution here. 

 

@volzzillayou said he plans to release them as their own versions? If you have working links we will use your links to download them as long as they stay online. We usually only warehouse when the char is either "login locked" offline entirely, or is on the other site that I don't need to name for obvious reasons. 

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Okay, I had to create an account to clarify several issues:


1. I am definitely not a woman, I don't mind being mistaken for one, and although I understand that this is because I have used avatars on my MMV account to allude to the fact that there are few female characters in fighting games, or that they are sexualized, unfortunately we do not live in such an advanced world.


2. I've known Volzilla since I shared a Martian Manhunter that was then kept private for quite some time for reasons, Nick Fury, Fire, etc.


3. The important thing is not that the game can't be played without characters, but that most of the new characters in the game are accessed through the store. You fight and earn points to buy characters, stages, or portraits for the gallery.  I was very tempted to encrypt it, but I decided not to, and of course, as I told Volzilla privately, I knew it wouldn't take long for them to be shared. I just didn't think it would be here; I thought it would be on Mugen Archive.

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4. The game is very good, not because I made it, not because of its new characters, or its gallery mode, or its shop mode, or its bonus mode, not because it's in IKEMEN and has animations in select screen, animated select stage, 1 intro, 3 endings, credits, or because of the screenpack or because the gameplay of all the characters is the same, hit packs, backgrounds, etc... Not because all the audio is from UMVC3 or MVCI for consistency, not because of the palette selector on the select screen, or because I tried not to miss any of the names of all the people behind the original characters, the ones I edited or the ones I needed as a base, not because I'm a perfectionist and symmetry is evident in many of the decisions, or because it was the work of more than 4 months, many hours a day.


The game is good as a whole, so to say that if the game doesn't hold up without the new characters, it's a bad game is too simplistic. The game is very good because of all its elements, and if something is missing, it doesn't mean it's bad, but it's not the game. In this case, if you remove the new characters, it's not as exclusive, and if you remove the gallery or the store, it's not as innovative.

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5. Finally, I hope you try the game because there's a lot of back and forth about the characters, which I appreciate, as they're not on the front page yet, but I think, in my humble opinion, it deserves a link alongside the other games, at least for preservation purposes in Mugen/Ikemen, just like you did with the one you created for Ranma 1/2.

 

6. I forgot to mention that most new characters cause problems in Mugen because I programmed them in IKEMEN, another reason why, if they have been extracted from their folder and have not been tested/edited, most of them will not work for the average Mugen user without basic programming knowledge.


Best regards, Volzilla

 

***Lo dejo en mi idioma por si la traducción crea algún malentendido***

 

Ok, he tenido que hacerme una cuenta para esclarecer varios asuntos:


1º Definitivamente no soy mujer, no me importa que se me confunda y aunque entiendo que se debe a que mediante avatares en mi cuenta de MMV he hecho alusion a que hay pocos personajes femeninos en los juegos de lucha, o que se sexualizan, desgraciadamente no vivimos en un mundo tan andelantado.


2º Conozco a Volzilla desde que comparti un Martian Manhunter que después quedo por bastante tiempo privado por razones, Nick Fury, Fire etc..


3º Lo importante, no es que el juego no se sostenga sin personajes, la cosa es que la mayoria de los personajes nuevos del juego se acceden mediante la tienda, tu vas peleando y vas ganando pts para comprar despues personajes, stages o portraits para la galeria.  Estuve muy tentado a encryptarlo, pero decidí que no, y por supuesto como le dije a Volzilla por privado sabia que no iba a tardar nada de tiempo en que se compartieran, eso si no pense que fuera aqui yo pense que seria en Mugen Archive.


4º El juego es muy bueno, no porque lo halla hecho yo, no por sus personajes nuevos, o su modo galeria, o su modo tienda, o su modo bonus, no porque este en IKEMEN y tenga como animaciones en select srcreen, select stage animado, 1 intro, 3 endings, creditos, o por el screenpack o porque la jugabilidad de todos los personajes es la misma, hitspacks, backgrounds, etc... No porque todos los audios sean de UMVC3 o MVCI para la homogeneidad, no es por el selector de paletas en el select screen, o el haber intentado que no se me escape ningun nombre de toda la gente que esta detras de los chars originales, los que edite o los que necesite de base, no porque yo sea perfeccionista y la simetria se nota en muchas de las decisiones, o porque haya sido el trabajo de mas de 4 meses muchas horas al día.


El juego es bueno por su conjunto, asi que afirmar que si el juego no se sostiene sin los personajes nuevos es un mal juego es una afiramción demasiado básica, es juego es muy bueno por el conjunto de todas sus cosas y si algo le falta no es que vaya a ser malo pero no es el juego, si en este caso se le quitan los personajes nuevos no tiene ya tanta exclusividad, si se le quita la galeria o la tienda, innovacion


5º Para terminar, a ver si probais el juego porque muchas vueltas para lo de los personajes, cosa que agradezco que aun no esten el la primera página, pero creo en mi opinion sea ahora mas o menos humilde, se merece un enlace junto a los demas juegos, como minimo a modo de preservacion en Mugen/Ikemen, al igual que hicisteis con el que cree de Ranma 1/2

 

6º Se me olvidaba la mayoría de chars nuevos dan problemas en Mugen porque los programe en IKEMEN, otra razón por la que si han sido extraidos de su carpeta y no han sido probados/editados la mayoría sin saber lo básico de programación no funcionaran para el usuario medio de mugen


Saludos Volzilla

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Red Chariot

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Hello Pilgrim, well can say is a pleasure to meet you.

 

1- That was my error, again some dude said that you were a woman in discord. So I don't know where he got that?

 

2- Ok

 

3- Again, it was Kyosuke who decided to post them in AK1. I wish he came here to talk but he really doesn't care about anything that isn't content for his own build

 

4- That argument can apply to any project, example Marvel Vs Capcom X. Which is another project that Kyosuke took characters from too. What I mean is that even if people can use them on their own builds, this shouldn't affect the quality or the recievement of the actual game. I know it can be disheartening but isn't like people were going to ignore the actual game because they can get the exclusive content out. If the game is enjoyable, people are going to keep returning to play it and unlock the characters, see all the endings, play with friends etc

 

5- That is fair, I mean the collection has Marvel Super Heroes II: Apocalypse which is just a compilation at the end of the day

 

6- I tested the characters that Kyosuke uploaded to AK1, they seem to work fine on normal builds. So I believe he probably edited them to be playable normally, he did the same for Marvel Vs Capcom X's characters who also shouldn't play normally on common builds but he probably investigated and meddled with the code.

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20 hours ago, Pilgrim-Aka-Avalon said:

Okay, I had to create an account to clarify several issues:


1. I am definitely not a woman, I don't mind being mistaken for one, and although I understand that this is because I have used avatars on my MMV account to allude to the fact that there are few female characters in fighting games, or that they are sexualized, unfortunately we do not live in such an advanced world.


2. I've known Volzilla since I shared a Martian Manhunter that was then kept private for quite some time for reasons, Nick Fury, Fire, etc.


3. The important thing is not that the game can't be played without characters, but that most of the new characters in the game are accessed through the store. You fight and earn points to buy characters, stages, or portraits for the gallery.  I was very tempted to encrypt it, but I decided not to, and of course, as I told Volzilla privately, I knew it wouldn't take long for them to be shared. I just didn't think it would be here; I thought it would be on Mugen Archive.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

4. The game is very good, not because I made it, not because of its new characters, or its gallery mode, or its shop mode, or its bonus mode, not because it's in IKEMEN and has animations in select screen, animated select stage, 1 intro, 3 endings, credits, or because of the screenpack or because the gameplay of all the characters is the same, hit packs, backgrounds, etc... Not because all the audio is from UMVC3 or MVCI for consistency, not because of the palette selector on the select screen, or because I tried not to miss any of the names of all the people behind the original characters, the ones I edited or the ones I needed as a base, not because I'm a perfectionist and symmetry is evident in many of the decisions, or because it was the work of more than 4 months, many hours a day.


The game is good as a whole, so to say that if the game doesn't hold up without the new characters, it's a bad game is too simplistic. The game is very good because of all its elements, and if something is missing, it doesn't mean it's bad, but it's not the game. In this case, if you remove the new characters, it's not as exclusive, and if you remove the gallery or the store, it's not as innovative.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

5. Finally, I hope you try the game because there's a lot of back and forth about the characters, which I appreciate, as they're not on the front page yet, but I think, in my humble opinion, it deserves a link alongside the other games, at least for preservation purposes in Mugen/Ikemen, just like you did with the one you created for Ranma 1/2.

 

6. I forgot to mention that most new characters cause problems in Mugen because I programmed them in IKEMEN, another reason why, if they have been extracted from their folder and have not been tested/edited, most of them will not work for the average Mugen user without basic programming knowledge.


Best regards, Volzilla

 

***Lo dejo en mi idioma por si la traducción crea algún malentendido***

 

Ok, he tenido que hacerme una cuenta para esclarecer varios asuntos:


1º Definitivamente no soy mujer, no me importa que se me confunda y aunque entiendo que se debe a que mediante avatares en mi cuenta de MMV he hecho alusion a que hay pocos personajes femeninos en los juegos de lucha, o que se sexualizan, desgraciadamente no vivimos en un mundo tan andelantado.


2º Conozco a Volzilla desde que comparti un Martian Manhunter que después quedo por bastante tiempo privado por razones, Nick Fury, Fire etc..


3º Lo importante, no es que el juego no se sostenga sin personajes, la cosa es que la mayoria de los personajes nuevos del juego se acceden mediante la tienda, tu vas peleando y vas ganando pts para comprar despues personajes, stages o portraits para la galeria.  Estuve muy tentado a encryptarlo, pero decidí que no, y por supuesto como le dije a Volzilla por privado sabia que no iba a tardar nada de tiempo en que se compartieran, eso si no pense que fuera aqui yo pense que seria en Mugen Archive.


4º El juego es muy bueno, no porque lo halla hecho yo, no por sus personajes nuevos, o su modo galeria, o su modo tienda, o su modo bonus, no porque este en IKEMEN y tenga como animaciones en select srcreen, select stage animado, 1 intro, 3 endings, creditos, o por el screenpack o porque la jugabilidad de todos los personajes es la misma, hitspacks, backgrounds, etc... No porque todos los audios sean de UMVC3 o MVCI para la homogeneidad, no es por el selector de paletas en el select screen, o el haber intentado que no se me escape ningun nombre de toda la gente que esta detras de los chars originales, los que edite o los que necesite de base, no porque yo sea perfeccionista y la simetria se nota en muchas de las decisiones, o porque haya sido el trabajo de mas de 4 meses muchas horas al día.


El juego es bueno por su conjunto, asi que afirmar que si el juego no se sostiene sin los personajes nuevos es un mal juego es una afiramción demasiado básica, es juego es muy bueno por el conjunto de todas sus cosas y si algo le falta no es que vaya a ser malo pero no es el juego, si en este caso se le quitan los personajes nuevos no tiene ya tanta exclusividad, si se le quita la galeria o la tienda, innovacion


5º Para terminar, a ver si probais el juego porque muchas vueltas para lo de los personajes, cosa que agradezco que aun no esten el la primera página, pero creo en mi opinion sea ahora mas o menos humilde, se merece un enlace junto a los demas juegos, como minimo a modo de preservacion en Mugen/Ikemen, al igual que hicisteis con el que cree de Ranma 1/2

 

6º Se me olvidaba la mayoría de chars nuevos dan problemas en Mugen porque los programe en IKEMEN, otra razón por la que si han sido extraidos de su carpeta y no han sido probados/editados la mayoría sin saber lo básico de programación no funcionaran para el usuario medio de mugen


Saludos Volzilla

hola Pilgrim ahi te escribi mas data de algunos chars que si funcionan en mugen en el otro foro...

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Emaserranista

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Collection updated now. All characters added but from the Pilgrim's fullgame, only those which were released at their site so far. I put a link for the fullgame too.

 

And Thatguy also released some single edits from his version of the DCvsMarvel fullgame (edits of Juan Carlos's Dr. Doom; Arielalexco's Wolverine and the Zvitor's Sentinel bonus game) which I added here as well. More info on: https://mugenmultiverse.forumotion.com/t17574-dc-vs-marvel-select-individual-releases-mmv-end-of-summer-2025-extra

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16 hours ago, Red Chariot said:

Is missing Moongirl and I asked Kyosuke about the whole loop problem thing, he said he did resolved that but he didn't wanted to tell me how... 😒

 

No, is a lie, I just downloaded and doesn't work in mugen 1.0, she is compatible with mugen 1.1b but not with mugen 1.0, I don't know how to solve to, I'm sure the incompatibility is in the dinosaur code who is the same of puppy's Galford in the Almagam.st, Dagger has now the same problem 'cause I edited with the same code to be compatible with the tag system of new build of Ikemen with Pal selector. So, at least, the moongirl in AK1 web don't have any fix for compatibility.

 
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