RobotMonkeyHead

Ok I was finally able to replicate the clones bug after k.o.  Pressing start was what I was missing.  I'll see if I can get that taken care of tonight.  EDIT:  I see what was going on.  I had some code started for an in game moves list that used taunt to trigger.  That should be fixed now.

 As for the Motorcycle problems and the dash freeze, silly mistakes.  I made a couple changes right before I uploaded the 2nd beta and I just missed a few state names.  I fixed those and updated the download link, if you want to see if the fixes work on your end.

The only problems left of the ones you pointed out should be the hypers, and again I haven't even touched those yet so don't worry about them too much.

Awesome! Nice job on making him seem like a completely different character. Although, he freezes up in a lot of states, like dashing, the Odd Swoosh Attack, and his taunt. His motorcycle also causes enemies to freeze up if they are hit by it, too, and if blocked, it would turn into Wario. And, he has a ground pound air hyper that doesn't really hurt all that much, too. It doesn't seem to be listed in the Move List file, either, and I was able to do it out of hitstun. Also, after winning with his new focus attack, this happened:

 

He kept slowly sliding left, too. Sometimes, the clones would vanish and a new set would appear. Another thing is that a little before I won, the 100 Hand Wimp Slap became electric based. Was that intentional? But, thanks for all of the edits. so far.

Thanks very much for the complements and feedback.  I know he's not exactly what you originally asked for, but I'm glad you're enjoying the changes so far.

*Freeze on dash:  I was able to replicate this by entering a focus attack during the dash.  This should be an easy fix.

*Freeze on odd swoosh thing:   I still haven't even touched the hypers, so whatever's going on there will almost certainly get worked out.

*Freeze on taunt:  I wasn't able to replicate this.  Does it happen every time?

*Motorcycle causes enemies to freeze:  Fixed.  Silly last minute mistake, forgot to change custom state number.

*Motorcycle turns into Wario when blocked:  I wasn't able to replicate that. Does this happen every time for you?

*Ground pound hyper damage low:  It's actually very likely going to be turned into a special, down +attack in the air.  I didn't add it in the moves list yet because I haven't touched it really.

*Winning with focus attack causes screen to go nuts:  I wasn't able to reproduce that either.  Again, does it happen every time for you, or only in certain instances?

*100 hand wimp slap electrified:  That's supposed to be an effect that Dark Wario has.  It's also on his dash attack, so it is sort of intentional. It's only triggered by a vairable in Wario's config file tho, which should be hard coded to off.  That, along with some other stuff you mentioned makes me wonder if the character you're testing him against is affecting his variables somehow.

What character and stage are you testing him on?  What version of mugen are you running?

Nice release!  I've been scheming on using this for my Iron Man stage probably with some AC/DC in background. 
I like the play on fight or flight in the name too.

@DarkWolf13:  Targetbind fixed.  Those commands don't look like they'll interfere with anything that's in place, but if you run into any difficulty switching them over I'll be happy to help.  And yes the opponent can tech hit out of the throws, relatively easily given the chain potential.  Throw attempt has 10 frame start up followed by 12 frame grab / escape window.  Hold any single directional for 10 of the 12 frames (can switch during) or tap a+x, b+y or c+z.

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Here's the last beta I'm going to upload for testing purposes before the actual release.  It has parry, alpha counter, focus attack, focus canceling and 4 ground throws.  Check the change log file for other updates to the code and the Moves List + Strategy file for details on the game play.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Download Updated WarioRMH_Beta2


 

Awesome, best of luck to you with those rips, and thanks.

Looks great!  Game play looks solid, and animations are tidy.  Plus, gotta love the nostalgia :)
 Downloaded.

Is the link in the first post the beta with all of the added things? Or, are you still working on adding all final touches at once? Also, I ran into a winpose where he kept going into his grab animation. Was that intentional?

The link that's up is the beta with all the changes described in the first post.  Anything added since then, parry, alpha counter, focus attack, throw chains, are not in that version.  I'll upload a beta.2 once I finish the air throws and revamp the hypers.  The win pos you're talking about is just a temporary 2 frame "dance". That I added for fun.  It won't be in the final version.

I like the progress you made... so these throws you mentioned to me. Are these normal throws or special throws? Because in the conversion thread, the characters there can Tech Hit cancel normal throws.

Thanks.  These are normal throws, which a Tech Hit escape would be very appropriate for, seeing as they can be chained into one another.  

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Finally found some decent free screen capture software, and made a google-tube account.  So here's a demo of the throw chaining, which requires good timing, and will not do as much damage as it does in the video.  Also don't mind the sound issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amePdLyB7Hw&feature=youtu.be

4 ground throws, each of which can be chained only into the next in the sequence:

1) Spin    QP + MP

2) Roll     MP + SP

3) Slam  MK + SK

4) Toss   QK + MK 

All 4 ground throws done.  Spin, Roll, Toss and Slam.  They can be linked into each other with careful timing.  Once the air throws are done, they will be able link into the ground throws as well.  Throw linking can be toggled in the config file.

Trying to find a good free screen recorder for mac so I can post a video update...

I like how the mountains don't move vertically when the camera scrolls up.  Gives you a real sense of the height when the players are jumping.  This is looking great so far.

Damn, that's lookin good.  I'm not really a wrestling fan but seeing as no one else is posting feedback on this, here goes.

Pros
-The double shadows from the ring posts and ropes look hot.  Multiple light sources accounted for is a nice touch.
-The ref is animated, and to scale with the players.
- Crowd looks good.  Animated but everyone's not 2 frame fist pumping.
- Ring is a decent scale

- The big screen in the background livens it up a lot.

Suggestions:
-A little more occasional "bigger movement" on the refs part might be nice, but it's looking good either way.

-The real people on the big screen sort of clash with the animated characters, but it definitely adds a more

 realistic wrestling feel to the stage.  Especially with the right music. 

- you could try filling up some of the empty black space in the background with static light burst effects to imitate more stage lighting.

The art looks decent, but the animation could use a little work, like Trin said.
Try slowing it down a bit, getting the foot position (particularly the toes) to stay in place, and adding just a little bit of arm movement in there. Maybe some breathing, by expanding the body just a tiny bit.

Right now it looks like you have 3 frames, in the order 1,2,3,2 loop.  Try going for 5 frames.  Make a frame between 1 and 2, and another one between 2 and 3.  It's not too hard, just go back and forth between the 2 your working with and create a sort of "average" frame by just cutting pieces up and moving them a tiny bit.  Once you got your in between frames, just do the same thing with the frame order.  1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5 loop.




 

I put the -1 chunk below the combo condition check and the commands under 2/3 Button Commands (if that part matters since they actually work already for you).

 

And np

Hmmm..  I've tried putting the code I posted at the top of the changestate section in the cmd so no other commands would get in the way.  I also tried erasing all other change states in the command file except for the ones I posted and I still get the bug.

Are you sure you aren't experiencing keyboard ghosting instead? I don't remeber what the default keyboard layout is or what you've changed the controls to but for example I can't hit Z & X simultaenously with the down or right arrows on my laptop.

What's keyboard ghosting?  I haven't changed the controls, but the symptom does sound similar.

EDIT:  Yea I'm gonna go with ghosting on this one.  The description just fits too perfectly.

Here's a link that explains what ghosting is and how it works.

http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/antighostingexplained.mspx

What rearranging did you do in the -1 code?  Thanks for testing this out, btw.

After many hours of trying to narrow down a particular bug, it turned out to be either a bug in the mugen engine itself, or in the program I'm using to run it. if someone would be willing to help, I can figure out which.

I run mugen on a mac using crossover which simulates a minimal windows environment inside what it calls a "bottle".

The bug is: using the button combination "a+b" while holding a directional as a trigger. This is apparently impossible on my computer, even with Kung-Fu Man, as trial and error eventually showed.

I'm hoping that someone else can open up Kung-Fu Man in Fighter Factory and input this bit of code to test the bug out. Preferably somebody running Windows, rather than Mac OS X.
 

_____________/ In the commands section of the .cmd file add

[Command]

name = "x1"

command = a+b

[Command]

name = "x2"

command = b+c

_____________/ In Statedef -1 in the .cmd file add

[state -1]

type = changestate

trigger1 = command = "x1"

trigger2 = command = "x2"

value = 40

When you play as Kung-Fu Man with that bit of code added, a+b or b+c should make him jump. However on my computer, if you're holding either forward, back or down, only b+c will make him jump.  a+b will do nothing.

If anyone else is able to reproduce this in a Windows environment, it seems the bug is in the mugen engine itself.  Otherwise it's probably the Windows simulation program I'm using to run mugen.

Any takers?
 

Turned the Windup Punch into a focus attack a la SF4.  Hold both mediums to charge it for up to 3 levels of charge.  Each level is marked by a quick palette flash and the addition of dust / blue wind respectively.

Level 1 crumples opponent only on a counter attack, otherwise it's just a guardable knock back. 
Level 2 crumples the opponent on hit, but can also be guarded. 
Level 3 crumples opponent on guard, but (one of the differences from SF4's mechanics) on a hit it sends the opponent flying / bouncing off the wall. 

For the crumple animation I used Dizzy > Stand to Crouch > Hit Hard Crouching > Recover Hard Crouching > Lie Down.

Most ground specials (no hypers) and all basics do cancel into the focus attack, and the focus attack cancels into dashes which can be used to get close to the crumpling opponent before they fall, or to pull off focus canceling combos. 

Differences from the SF4 focus attack mechanics are that the move doesn't automatically trigger after holding the buttons for long enough and there's no super armor / hit absorb.  I figured the no armor was a fair exchange for the better timing (no auto trigger), parry and alpha cancel, seeing as it sort of works in place of those mechanics anyway.

So parry, alpha counter and focus attack have been added.  Now onto finishing up the throws, and polishing up the hypers.  From there it's just palettes, intro's and win poses.

EDIT:
And, uh, 7 throws.  4 ground, 3 air.  I'm thinking 2 of the ground throws will only be executable during another throw (a la King in Tekken), and the same for 2 of the air throws.

@Darkwolf13, the throw commands I'm using are 
QP+MP
MP+SP

QK+MK

MK+SK

Same in the air, so really the only thing you might have to change to accommodate your tag system is the focus attack, which uses both mediums.  Easy enough to switch that to both quicks.  Not that it's difficult to switch commands around, but I did actually take care not to use both fierce or all 3 punches / kicks for any of his commands.  His parry and alpha counter's can easily be disabled in the config file too.

Alpha Counter system implemented.
 

If the fart burst is weak, make the target go into a dizzy state.

Yes.     and if strong a disproportionately hard launch to the other side of the screen.

Parry system implemented (red parry possible), alpha counter in progress.  Added some code that makes switching between high and low block quicker.  More work into overhauling the cmd file.
 

for the burst how about a large fart lol.

That might just work.

Todays progress was decent.  I dug through mountains of "junk code", and moved it all into a separate file.  Found 5 half finished throws that I intend to finish (including a couple air throws), and a couple hypers and specials that I intend to rework and incorporate.  I added the beginnings of a "dark wario" mode for start+ palettes, and I also started on a parry system.  Guard crush isn't far behind that.  Maybe a sort of burst move to escape combos.   

Forgot to put feedback. Whoops, sorry about that, considering it was my request...

 

Well, I forgot how I did it, but somehow I made Wario freeze in his taunt animation after I won, and he spawned a lot of clones in place until Mugen just said I won. I also randomly froze up after landing one of his punches, I don't remember which. With good timing, you can do all 3 variations of the Waststach Twisiter in one go. Also, the Ground Shake hyper (Odd Swoosh Attack hyper) can only be done mid combo. And, it's not easy to go from high block to low block when blocking a combo. The head charge hyper could probably lose a tiny bit of startup, too. (Not a lot, just a little)

 

I love how fluid his sprites are now, the different cannon ball trajectories, and the air fireball, too. He's a lot of fun, melee wise. Can't wait until he gets fully finished.

I'll see if I can replicate that winning spawn thing. 

The frozen punch was probably his medium punch.  I added a standing frame of duration 20 for the sake of the gif.  I thought I removed it on all of them but I missed that one.  Fixed now. 

The Wustache Twister is supposed to chain into itself that way.  Strong is 4 hits, medium is 3 and quick is 2.  The last hit of each knocks the opponent away, but if you chain into a weaker version before the last hit you can chain it for up to 7 hits.  It does require decent timing tho.

Yea that odd swoosh hyper thing is getting completely overhauled, I just haven't gotten there yet.

I'm not sure why it's difficult to go from high to low block while blocking a combo.  I really have no idea what could be causing that.  Any suggestions?

I'll check out the head charge hyper's start up too.
 

Ok, back from vaca, and back to work on Wario.  I'll post one more updated version of him for feedback before the actual release.

One of the first things I thought I noticed about the original was that the sprites looked blurry, but after visiting spriter's resource and the thread where Jackster was describing how he ripped them, I found out they're actually dumped right from the game.  It doesn't stop them from looking a bit greyed out and blurry in mugen, of course, so I plan to include a copy of the entire sprite sheet once I apply the same filters I applied to the existing sprites.  That way if anyone wants to add more stuff or edit him further, they have plenty of resources.
 

nice work on the character :D . The c.MK be perfect for an Air launcher for air combo

Thanks OG!  The c.MK and c.MP both have a little bit of velocity to them for the sake of his range in general.  The c.SP is actually the launcher, and the c.SK is a knock down.

NICE

Thanks!

Man, Wario looks very JPEG on that screenshot...

He doesn't look too bad in game, give him a try.  The original (link above) is really blurry tho.

Whoa, the 9000,0 icon has gone bonkers.

Yea I know, I accidentally deleted the palette for it at some point.  I just haven't gotten around to redoing it just yet. 

wow you made those sprites look way better and that list of changes is great will be trying this today :).

Thanks, hope you like.  Check out the config file too for side scroller styled jump control.  It's a little weird at first, but it's kinda fun.

This is outstanding progress! I'm giving him a spot for my MvC2 Conversion thread.

Awesome.  Been following that thread too btw, can't wait to see a DarkWolf tag styled Wario! 
 

VeRY NICE))) 

Thank ya, thank ya veruh much.

Alright fellas, I put up a W.I.P. thread with a download link.  Any feedback or suggestions should go there.  Hope you like!


 

Unber is almost done his lvl 3 is just left now so here have a generalization of Pope's gameplay.

Ohhhhh god yes pleassss!

I see.  Well, then pending any new ideas, I think my options are pretty well laid out.
Thanks very much for your help Алексей.

That's true.  For example if fighting Wonder Woman or Dragon Claw, the insult of not being able to access the moves list to save yourself would add insult to the relentless beating.

What if I just use a superpause to pause the game for the moves list?

Yea, I was thinking something like that too.  The other thing I could do is have the message say something like "Wait until neither character is attacking to access moves list.", and then just have it check for attack state types.