BrawlTheMan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 So a fellow by the name of Dragonrod made his first character, a Krookodile. The gameplay is partially based off of Gladiacloud's Charizard, with x, y and z being the light, medium and heavy attacks, and c being launcher/OTG (or in this character's case, knockdown and damaging teleport). A lot of the attacks miss up close, but hey, pretty sprites. the download link is here: http://www.4shared.com/rar/rMUa9NeUce/krookodile.html Ex✭Cᴀʜᴍ and Galvatron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex✭Cᴀʜᴍ Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 not bad at 1st view buuut well download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Character has no damage dampening Some of the hitboxes are questionable, for instance; Infinites on Dragon Breath (light) and Stomp; Earthquake does 200 damage on block when it does 400 normally, which is way too much for chip damage imo. Darude Sandstorm is an unblockable fullscreen after the 1st hit, especially since Krookodile can move around during it. Stone Edge at point blank does pathetic damage Voices sound like they were ripped straight from the anime, as background and music can still be heard. Character width is inconsistent with the actual hitbox sizes. Medium and Strong normals whiff at point blank. Crouching C and Aerial Strong have no hitboxes on the recovery frames of the attacks, so they cannot be punished. Normals deal damage on block. No throws The projectile created by Stomp is designated as a physical attack, which causes unintended behavior when used on Counters Galvatron, BrawlTheMan and Sinnamon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 http://imgur.com/wyJJqnV,tZ8iBhT,x9sdhXC,aatrjPL,74KkztL,c7AUIvu,VXlypZG,IwkbNlK,djDTjx1,PLjDExQ,YanvsBA,hchGxHY,KsLmvXWHitboxes are off/don't look right imo. Also he has no throws, something a fighting game character should always have. The projectile created by Stomp is designated as a physical attack, which causes unintended behavior when used on Counters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ghostler Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sprites look really great. Hopefully Dragonrod will update this character and fix the mentioned problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWolf13 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 He did told me on deviantArt that Sandstorm is suppose to hit full screen and he said that it was meant to stop combos from opponents and it cannot be guarded.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 100 Mega Shock! Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 That's really overexcessive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflare Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 He did told me on deviantArt that Sandstorm is suppose to hit full screen and he said that it was meant to stop combos from opponents and it cannot be guarded.. OW! MY BRAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I forgot to add this: The hitbox for Darude Sandstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remzy Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Shame, sprites look good, might as well wait for an update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinitronity Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 He did told me on deviantArt that Sandstorm is suppose to hit full screen and he said that it was meant to stop combos from opponents and it cannot be guarded.. Yeah, but that's an awful idea. Unblockable full screen attacks are cheap, unbalanced and generally unwanted, even if it is a hyper. So it should be EITHER full screen OR unblockable, but not both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflare Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Shame, sprites look good, might as well wait for an update I would not get my hopes up. At least for an update that would fix the many issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 100 Mega Shock! Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Its walk vels are also like even slower than Zangief which seems a bit too much. Running too (and you can crouch while running). Also anim 5060 is missing a sprite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmoidThunder Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Cockblock Sandstorm Hyper is weak when you consider Krookodile's other Hypers (120 damage in comparison to 300 (potentially) and 400), but that doesn't count for much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrawlTheMan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah, that sandstorm thing is really not something that should be in a fighting game. I get that he wanted to make Sandstorm function like in the Pokemon games, but it's just not something that translates well. Honestly, I think it should have just been a generic fullscreen super (that you can block and punish of course) or scrapped entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganbare-Lucifer Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I wonder if he can fix these little errors. But goshdarn, Dragonrod is only beginning on MUGEN. Don't compare him like he is being the new Chuchoryu or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remzy Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I wonder if he can fix these little errors. But goshdarn, Dragonrod is only beginning on MUGEN. Don't compare him like he is being the new Chuchoryu or something like that. Except no one here is comparing him to Chuchoryu? Yes we get it it's his first release but these problems just aren't acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrawlTheMan Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 I wonder if he can fix these little errors. But goshdarn, Dragonrod is only beginning on MUGEN. Don't compare him like he is being the new Chuchoryu or something like that. I'm with Remzy. Nobody said he was like that. Plus, your first character can be good. You just have to take your time, research fighting games, research coding, get people to beta test it, lurk in forums to avoid rookie mistakes, all that good stuff. If you dive into character making blind, you'll get bad results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoria Alter Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Cockblock Sandstorm Hyper is weak when you consider Krookodile's other Hypers (120 damage in comparison to 300 (potentially) and 400), but that doesn't count for much. Problem isn't the damage in itself, it's the fact that it's a full screen unblockable that lasts a while, allows the user the move while it occurs, and prevents the opponent from doing anything while just costing 1 bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Problem isn't the damage in itself, it's the fact that it's a full screen unblockable that lasts a while, allows the user the move while it occurs, and prevents the opponent from doing anything while just costing 1 bar. Personally I think the move should be a "life-drain" type attack where the opponent can still fight but his life bar drains until the sandstorm move stops. :-P Ex✭Cᴀʜᴍ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Personally I think the move should be a "life-drain" type attack where the opponent can still fight but his life bar drains until the sandstorm move stops. :-P The problem with this is that due to Mugen's limitations, it would require the opponent to be hit at least once before the life drain effect could take effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmoidThunder Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 And it doesn't always go away. Unless I'm wrong and Gengar's Toxic is just coded badly :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrawlTheMan Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Maybe it could hurt without making the opponent flinch? If this was the case, then the sandstorm damage shouldn't kill the opponent (god knows the funny bugs that would happen if someone tried to throw Krookodile while the sandstorm was active). And maybe it could just hit three times and then stop? I'm not sure how we can salvage this (or if it's salvageable at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmoidThunder Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 That's basically what Galvatron suggested, making it like that poison effect some characters have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 The problem with this is that due to Mugen's limitations, it would require the opponent to be hit at least once before the life drain effect could take effect. True... :-P And it doesn't always go away. Unless I'm wrong and Gengar's Toxic is just coded badly :s If I recall thier are other known characters that has these type of moves - Kenshiro (HnK) has a life-drain super when he does the "skull-pressure-point" move ( I forgot what that move was called ) where after the opponent gets hit and the life bar drains down until the opponent gets K.O. However the opponent still fights - Gen (SFA series) has a move like that called Shitenshuu, ["Death Point Curse"] upon looking on these thier is a victim-state code that causes that life-drain effect: [state 0, 0] type = lifeadd trigger1 = time >= 0 trigger1 = GameTime % 10 = 0 value = -10 ..However as Rice said Mugen has its limitations on these type of situations but if coded right the move won't be that buggy. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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