Xan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Give examples. What in Ubers is supposedly not that hard to counter, and what in OU is nearly impossible to kill? Way to abuse downvoting. I didn't attack you in that post whatsoever. What, do you not like people questioning you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Sorry, I was a bit hasty. It sure felt like one, though. ...Oh who am I kidding. I lose all reason when Pokebattling. I believe it's more fair to say that I have a hard time fighting certain Pokemon like Greninja and Aegislash, Pokemon which are OU, and yet my Mega Lucario, Gengar, and Kangaskhan are constantly getting their asses handed to them. My Gengar can't take a hit in either form and Kangaskhan can take a hit sometimes, but she has a hard time actually killing a lot of things. My Mega Lucario just plain fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Are you using them properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Kangaskhan: Maybe not. Gengar: Maybe not. Lucario: DEFINATELY not. My Kangaskhan has Fake Out/Power-Up Punch/Sucker Punch and Return. My Gengar has Shadow Ball/Sludge Bomb/Dazzling Gleam/Destiny Bond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 That's why they're not doing well. You're not using them correctly. I recommend you do a bit of reading up on them at other sites and see what other people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 What would you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I recommend you do a bit of reading up on them at other sites and see what other people do. :U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'd rather have a reccomendation from you. I could look up a hundred different sources, and they'll all say something different. Not all of which are helpful. What's your pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Dude. Just read up on Smogon. They know their shit better than I do. :U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Meh, I'll just try different stuff and see what works. Frankly, I have been having semi-success with Kangaskhan, so I'll stick with that moveset, maybe change up Return. Honestly, I quite like my priority moves. Gengar I... might just disgard altogether. He just cannot take a hit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnswer Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Are your megas Iv breed? did you Ev train them? for Gengar if you wanna destiny bond use a sub and run shadow ball and focus blast. For mega Khan get that fake out shit outta there you don't need it, try earthquake and maybe replace sucker punch with crunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Are your megas Iv breed? did you Ev train them? for Gengar if you wanna destiny bond use a sub and run shadow ball and focus blast. For mega Khan get that fake out shit outta there you don't need it, try earthquake and maybe replace sucker punch with crunch. But if I get rid of my priority moves, won't that make Khan more likely to be one-shot without a single go? I'd rather keep my priority moves, but I'll try Earthquake out over Return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Lol, MegaKang is actually really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Still, I do kind of like having the priority moves. But if you insist, I could sacrifice one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWolf13 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Substitute? Well from I saw in the sources, though it's a little late... Pokemon with Infiltrator can DAMAGE the Pokemon that just used Substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Or they can just use a sound move and bypass it without Infiltrator. * Xan pets his Noivern and chuckles evilly * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MugoUrth Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Not to mention it rarely ever works. You have to be absolutely dead sure a person's going to use a non-damaging move and doesn't have infiltrator. Anything else will gnaw through Gengar's substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Not to mention it rarely ever works. You have to be absolutely dead sure a person's going to use a non-damaging move and doesn't have infiltrator. Anything else will gnaw through Gengar's substitute. Or it gnaws regular Gengar's substitute and then he hits back with a 100% accurate Disable, but that's not what Mega Gengar is used for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWolf13 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Gengar is what some people call a Glass Cannon... basically, MugoUrth, those 3 are in the Glass Cannon class. You need at least a Pokemon with good Defense or Sp Defense. I don't have any suggestions on who though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 hmm.... the only defensive pokemons i can think of are: Umbreon Shuckle Snorlax(+ Assault vest) Slurpuff(+ Assault vest) Tyranitar and its Mega-form (+assault vest) Aggron and its Mega-form (+assault vest) Blissey if you give it leftovers ( and it has recovery moves) ..............and couple more i can't think of right now. Personally I wish their an hold item that boost Physical defense (besides the berry which only can use it for one battle/turn ). =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Or it gnaws regular Gengar's substitute and then he hits back with a 100% accurate Disable, but that's not what Mega Gengar is used for... I beg to differ. SubDisable + perfect coverage and Shadow Tag have won me many a battle in the past. It's hella useful for SubDisable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicePigeon Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Taunt, DB, Sludge Bomb/Wave, Focus Blast generally gets the job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Meh I like it for what it is. The Sub also helps protect it from Thunder Wave and shit which would otherwise cripple it. It's got its uses and I like it. Especially if it keeps the sub up after killing something so it's even more annoying to take down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWolf13 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Then don't let Maison Infiltrator Crobat use Confuse Ray... don't know if they have Confuse Ray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Lol, I don't think the Maison Crobats run Confuse Ray and don't care. I'm still usually able to land a good Shadow Ball on them regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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