Jirobou

if there is virus in adfly pages we should have scan proof, even if pages are dynamic

virustotal logs all scans so if you can find a virus at any time, just one time, it will be logged forever, then just share the scan with everyone

but nobody to my knowledge ever shared such a scan, despite all the hate adfly gets

despite all the people who say there is virus, nobody could ever prove it, don't you think it's a bit strange?

if we can say there is virus without proof, then I'll say there is virus in mediafire, so let's stop using mediafire right now, and we must replace all mediafire links immediately, so what are you waiting for do it now? no? get it now? without a proof we just aren't going anywhere? asking people to make some big changes without proving why they even should, that's not going to work

adfly virus are like UFO, lot of people who believe yet no proof anywhere

probably because they don't exist if you ask me, that's the only logical explanation I can think of

10 hours ago, GarchompMatt said:

That's implying the virus ads only take effect if you click on them. Ever heard of javascript injection?

we all know that, but again, until now, nobody could provide a virus scan proof of an infected adfly page, so what does that tell you?

besides adfly claim they scan their pages 24/7, source : https://adf.ly

people who click on adfly ads, browse some shitty sites and install suspicious programs which probably contain adware can only blame themselves

as long as nothing malicious is done without you being aware of it, you must take responsibility for where you click and what you install on your computer

the proper way to use adfly is to just skip the ads, and anyone who isn't dumb would do just that, this way you'll never have any problem with adfly, and publishers can get some bucks

there is a relevant discussion on minecraft forums

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/mods-discussion/2748890-stop-using-adfly-it-can-give-you-malware-dont-just

I think it was pretty much nailed at post #3

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So modders should not put adfly links because some people are too dumb to click a big, yellow button that says "Skip Ad" ?

lmao xD

at the beginning you can see the adfly page is already blackened and there is a highlighted message

this is a typical highslide and should only happen if you click somewhere on the page, which is why I think he clicked on the ad

never click on adfly ads, this is the rule of thumb, just skip it, always, or you'll be redirected to some shit site

and btw I scanned the url in his video ( q.gs/6s34J )

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/c92f2693c6344ec061a9a33850cd3570507e8c37235bcd272849e6098822c5e2/analysis

Detection ratio: 0/66

59 minutes ago, Niitris said:

So, please tell me how this is fake.

 

 

interesting (and pretty funny) i've never had this shit in adfly personally though

we don't see what he clicked at the beginning though, it seems like he clicked the ad before clicking the skip button or something, which may be why he got redirected to another website

anyway there is no virus here, he just got redirected to some scam site with a scam message, which is entirely his fault if he clicked the ad, still not a proof that an adfly page can embed a virus

according to dizzy they do remove char if there is a complain from IP owner

and about the two servers i'm not sure but they seem to have an storage server and an app server

this is speculation but perhaps is because they do run both a forum and a file server, while most sites would only do one or the other

you make some good points however i'm pretty sure mugenarchive file average is bigger than that because i've seen tons of large files up to 200M, if you browse the donald edits, they are 50-70M average per file

anyway according to mugenarchive they are on two dedicated servers, since a justhost ded is up to 250 per month, the fees could go up to 500 per month

this is a whole different story than paying a 15 per month shared hosting, even with a normal job paying that much would hurt a lot, especially if you have a family, children and all the stuff

mugenarchive used to be on a shared server for years, and at that time the site was totally ad free iirc, they only started adding ads when the site grew really big

i know because they made these info public, i can post the link if you want, but i don't want to be accused of spamming

16 hours ago, Алексей said:

There's only one thing I'd like to point out after reading all this because I think it's relevant. Jirobou has made the official statement that there isn't a site out there that allowed downloading for free with no ads and no revenue-gaining tactics whatsoever, when this is just false. Anyone who knows me from my mugen days knows that I hosted the mugen content of myself and a select group of other authors for absolute free, on a website called MugenCoder that was built from scratch. There were no ads and the only features that were locked behind an account (also free) were commenting and user profile features. Downloading was completely open to the public for free. MFG sites also do the same thing. These were just acts of generosity for a community we're apart of. So, depending on how you go about things, your financial status, and your attitude about things, it's quite possible. Usually one or more of these key items is out of line with those who choose to plaster ads all of their sites. It's a choice, not a requirement.

What I said is there is no 100% ad free "massive" hosting plan

"massive" is the key word

what you can do with a shared server, you can't with a hundreds bucks dedicated plan

how much were the hosting fees of mugencoder compared to mugenarchive? they basically host 40,000 files currently so I would imagine it costs the hell of a lot

in fact it comes down to : servers do cost money

if you have big servers, those which cost hundreds, then either you are very rich and can afford to pay from your own money, or you're a normal person and you need ads to pay the bill

18 hours ago, Ricepigeon said:

And for the record, there are numerous accounts, both here and on other mugen forums, of experiences with adfly. We have nothing against displaying ads. Its specifically the fact that adfly's ads have no safeguards to protect visitors from ads that contain browser hijacks, malware, and other malicious software and Archive's refusal to acknowledge this fault. Name one other file sharing/hosting site with ads that does this.

I would like to believe you but not once anyone provided a proof.

Not a single person stating adfly is dangerous was able to provide an online scan of an infected adfly page. Why is there no virus detected on adfly page? I think the only reasonable answer is : because there is no virus in adfly.

There was a discussion on mfg about this, and it was basically

staff : it is fact there is virus in adfly

dude : really? then prove it

staff : here's the one proof i can provide  *bans*

plain irrational, believe or get banned, like some kind of sect of zealots

11 hours ago, GarchompMatt said:

The hilarious part is that nobody here other than yourself appears to be having issues with MediaFire's ads, especially not to the browser-freezing extent you're having; for all we know, you could be making it up in an attempt to justify the usage of adf.ly on the Archive.

 

But fine, I'll reason with you. Though I have yet to come across a MediaFire ad that forced me to sit through it before I was able to access a file (which may or may not instead hijack my browser), I will admit that sometimes clicking on the download button redirects to a sponsored website (but still downloads the file), though this is easily bypassed by right-clicking the download button and opening the link in a new tab or saving the link; no extensions required.

 

As for proof of adf.ly being dangerous, a while ago when I was searching for Ruben's Final Destination, I managed to come across his website and attempted to see if the download link still worked, which it did, but it was behind an adf.ly link. After waiting the required amount of time, it redirected me to a blank website with a javascript popup that prevented me from closing or navigating away from the tab, so naturally a terminated Chrome via Task Manager and ran a virus scan. Viewing my Chrome history showed that before being redirected to that weird website, it had actually attempted to go to MediaFire where the file is stored (and that's how I managed to get the file). If you refuse to believe me, I'm sure Ruben's website is still out there if you want to try your luck, but I wouldn't recommend it.

I've tried to capture the freezing which happens EVERYTIME but as soon as firefox hangs or crashes, the video capture crashes too, I think there some kind of cpu bottleneck involved in the ad which kills any cpu intensive process, something really ugly is going on with these mediafire ads

I can post the video up to the crash, but you won't see the actual freeze and crash since the video stops there, but you could at least see the ads popping out and bypassing adblock

also I would like you to cut out the bullshit please, will you?

you said there is virus in adfly? it is EASY to prove just post an online scan of page with the virus

you said dizzy hates leechers, please show us the link where dizzy said that

if you keep talking and don't post any proof then everyone will know you're full of s*** , sorry pal but that's the truth

virus on adfly are like aliens, lots of people believe in it, but there is no proof

i have yet to see one evidence of virus on adfly

if you have evidence then by all means show it now, not another time, now

post some online scans of infected adfly ads, use virustotal.com it is the best online scan

if you can't post a proof then just accept that there is no virus until proven otherwise

never had a problem with adfly ads myself, the biggest bother is you have to wait 5sec, and sometimes there is a noisy video that i have to mute

but this is nothing compared to mediafire popup ads which are freezing my whole browser, for at least 20 freaking seconds

and sometimes i have to kill firefox because it won't respond anymore even after a while

mediafire ads are cancerous to me, and much much worse than adfly ads

really i believe all of this is plain hypocrisy

you criticize adfly ads, make up some bullshit virus story, and you don't say anything about mediafire cancerous ads, plain hypocrisy I tell ya

no idea why you're so hateful dude

if it's because of ads then why do you use mediafire which has even worse ads? it really makes no damn sense to me

google it up man there are tons of people who complain about mediafire popups

about the leecher hate, it's a lie from a hater and you believe it only because you're a hater too

On 05/12/2016 at 11:07 PM, Xenocard said:

 

I think the others covered that up for me. The ads in MediaFire you can handle through fine at least. And yeesh the fact Dizzy said that when he hates leechers when others do at that site is just... wrong.

I wouldn't trust his word on that unless he can provide a source

He has a record of twisting things a lot, since he always had something personal against mugenarchive

@Starmie I did try right click on firefox but it still fires the popups, even more than normal clicks, and my browser is still frozen for a while when I do it. mediafire has become my worst internet nightmare tbh :(

16 hours ago, GarchompMatt said:

Dizzy has also gone on record to say that he dislikes leachers, despite the fact that they themselves leach off other websites to fill up their collections. My understanding is that they don't even allow links back to the original download location, which ends up hurting the creators they rely so much on; they should really have it so the original author's link is the primary download, and if that goes offline, they resort to their own backup.

something tells me this is all bullshit, source or it didn't happen

and btw mediafire links die too, less quickly than sendspace but they definitely die

here we have tons of mediafire dead links

4 hours ago, vgma2 said:

Complaints about ads on Mediafire?
Since when did ad blockers stop working on Mediafire?

yeah i have adblock and mediafire still manages to fire popups

I wouldn't complain if the popups didn't freeze my browser, downloading from mediafire is now a nightmare

On 01/12/2016 at 3:33 AM, Xenocard said:

Sounds like it's more troublesome in your hands. even though mediafire has pop ups and ads, at least it doesn't restrict file sizes to download. And despite it not having all the extra space to put stuff in, at least you're not obliged to do so since you can always just put stuff in and out without a hassle. in Mugen Archive, you pretty much have to do something in-order to literally get a simple file despite so.

 

So it's pretty much true that paid content on a freeware really doesn't mix together and adfly is the worst since I had a hard time even getting the things I need.

The download limit is because of leech who use a download accelerator, it has nothing to do with adfly.

And yes you have to register an account on archive, but the good side is they won't delete files after 30 days of no download, like mediafire and others do, so at least you know your links are safe, and you can download whenever you need it.

So yeah you have failed to prove how mediafire is any better than adfly. For me it's far worse, at least adfly ads don't freeze my computer, they are annoying because sometimes there are noisy video but at least they don't cause freezing or other crap like this.

8 hours ago, GarchompMatt said:

The money used to keep MFFA up comes from both donations and the two people who offered to pay the majority of the fees.

Adf.ly is one of the worst ways a website can earn money.

How is mediafire any better?

MFFA fees are not the problem, it is on shared server so it's almost free compared to the 500 bucks per month dedicated plans

but since we aren't on ded we can't host much content here and we use mediafire for storage, and that where money gets involved

mediafire has the worst ads I have ever seen, unblockable popups that freeze my computer, so again how is it any better than adfly, and how do you get massive storage plan with no money involved anywhere

we all agree downloads must be free, but the question is can you have massive storage online with no money involved, the answer is no, it doesn't exist

the reason is simple, servers don't grow on trees, someone has to pay the bill, always, so money will always be involved in a way or another

ad money, subscriptions, pro accounts, whatever, but believing money can be not involved is being ignorant

money is always involved even on mffa

2 hours ago, IDGCaptainRussia said:

Clearly you've never used Dropbox then

https://www.dropbox.com/help/15

<-- you need paid pro account for big storage, so money is still involved

On 06/11/2016 at 6:02 PM, SSBK65 said:

they need an affiliate with free, no money involved

dude, how can you expect massive storage with no money involved?

ever heard of massive storage sites with no ads? no because it doesn't exist, no because storage has a cost and someone has to pay

mediafire is full of ads, so is 4shared etc... in fact mediafire is far worse than mugenarchive because they have these nasty unblockable popups that freeze my browser

and mediafire is what ffa uses 90% of the time, so really it's all hypocrisy

wow you're being mean for no reason and a bit annoying now I must admit

not going to waste more time to explain I don't do what you think I do

so yeah let it go and have a nice day sir /theend

8 hours ago, Darklight said:

there is no need to ask people who are on a forum to ask them to join another one if you want files that are not up on there yet get your lazy ass up and do it your self they have spoken that they dont wish to do so please be respectful 

chill friend, i'm just replying to those who make it sounds like it's impossible to download on ma, that's bs, all you need is an email and ta-da!

all you need is an email for an account seriously, took me a couple of minutes to get my account on ma just like it took me a couple of minutes for my mffa account

if you get banned, welp make a dupe i guess, or even better don't get yourself banned

15 hours ago, Dissonance ♪ ™ said:

You don't say? Then that means MFFA is a scam?

nope, MFFA isn't an archive, it is an index. the difference between hosting or not hosting

BTW can you fix the dead links in your sites?

@GarchompMatt & @Flowrellik

please do not be selfish, sorry you got banned but preserving history is serious stuff, we don't want mugen content to be lost by the day even more

but mediafire has ads too even them nasty popup that I can't block

hosting is never free and there is always someone who must pay so why is it a big deal?

and it's members only because of DL accelerators so blame people with their DL accelerators that ruin websites

why the hate ?

mugenarchive is the only legitimate archive for mugen, so don't be selfish

and it's better than dead links