Jump to content

[Gen6] Viability ranks: Smogon Ver (Singles Ubers & OU updates, 03/28/16)


RicePigeon

Recommended Posts

Mega Swampert requires rain in order to be effective, which isnt that great in UU since Drizzle is banned in UU. That aside, the extra defenses of Mega Swampert isnt quite enough to offset the lack of Leftovers recovery on support Swampert, which is mostly used for Stealth Rock setup, leaving room for another Mega who can use. This doesnt mean Mega Swampert is bad in UU though, its still A- rank.

 

OU is a different story, and Mega Swampert greatly outclasses its regular form in that environment.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mega Swampert requires rain in order to be effective, which isnt that great in UU since Drizzle is banned in UU. That aside, the extra defenses of Mega Swampert isnt quite enough to offset the lack of Leftovers recovery on support Swampert, which is mostly used for Stealth Rock setup, leaving room for another Mega who can use. This doesnt mean Mega Swampert is bad in UU though, its still A- rank.

 

OU is a different story, and Mega Swampert greatly outclasses its regular form in that environment.

Oh i see because if you think about it Swampert has to become Mega by holding the mega stone but since it can't hold any items during that form it loses its way in HP recovery but still gain good defence bulk. :-P

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Big ORAS Singles Ubers update:

 

For a much easier reference, the viability ranks for the various tiers will be listed here, as seen on Smogon.
 
S+ Rank (new)
383-p.png

Additions:

Primal Groudon: Up from unranked

 

 

 

S Rank (old)
094.png094-m.png382.png150.png150-mx.png150-my.png716.png

S Rank (new)
493.png094-m.pngY63zdgN.png716.png

Losses:

Kyogre: Drop to B+

Mewtwo: Drop to A+

Mega Mewtwo Y: Drop to A+

Mega Mewtwo X: Drop to A-

 

Additions:

Arceus-Normal: Up from A+

Mega Salamence: Up from unranked

 

No Changes:

Gengar/Mega Gengar: No change

Xerneas: No change

 

 

 

 

A+ Rank (old)
493-ghost.png(Ghost)493.png(Normal)257.png257-m.png645-s.png484.png717.png

A+ Rank (new)
493-ghost.png(Ghost)491.png250.png382-p.png380.png381.png150.png150-my.png717.png

Losses:

Arceus-Normal: Rise to S

Blaziken/Mega Blaziken: Drop to A-

Landorus-Therian: Drop to A-

Palkia: Drop to A-

 

Additions:

Darkrai: Rise from A

Ho-oh: Rise from A

Primal Kyogre: Rise from unranked

Latias: Rise from F

Latios: Rise from F

Mewtwo: Drop from S

Mega Mewtwo Y: Drop from S

 

No Changes:

Arceus-Ghost: No change

Yveltal: No change

 

 

 

 

A Rank (old)
491.png386a.png386s.png483.png383.png250.png707.png644.png

A Rank (new)
493-dark.png(Dark)493-ground.png(Ground)483.png487o.png249.png707.png

Losses:

Darkrai: Rise to A+

Deoxys-Attack: Drop to A-

Deoxys-Speed: Drop to A-

Groudon: Drop to B+

Ho-oh: Rise to A+

Zekrom: Drop to B+

 

Additions:

Arceus-Dark: Rise from B-

Arceus-Ground: Rise from B+

Origin Giratina: Rise from B

Lugia: Rise from A-

 

No Changes:

Dialga: No change

Klefki: No change

 

 

 

 

A- Rank (old)
493-electric.png(Electric)493-poison.png(Poison)493-water.png(Water)576.png249.png384.png212.png212-m.png

A- Rank (new)
257.png257-m.png386a.png386s.pngWHn0uhM.png472.png645-s.png150-mx.png484.png384.png212.png212-m.png

Losses:

Arceus-Electric: Drop to B

Arceus-Poison: Drop to B

Arceus-Water: Drop to C+

Gothitelle: Drop to B

Lugia: Rise to A

 

Additions:

Blaziken/Mega Blaziken: Drop from A+

Deoxys-Attack: Drop from A

Deoxys-Speed: Drop from A

Mega Diancie: Rise from unranked

Gliscor: Rise from B

Landorus-Therian: Drop from A+

Mega Mewtwo X: Drop from S

Palkia: Drop from A+

 

No Changes:

Rayquaza: No change

Scizor/Mega Scizor: No change

 

 

 

 

B+ Rank (old)

493.png(Fairy)493-grass.png(Grass)493-ground.png(Ground)649.png700.png642.png202.png

B+ Rank (new)

493.png(Fairy)493-grass.png(Grass)649.png383.png115-mega.png382.png0vrs5qm.png700.png642.png202.png644.png

Losses:

Arceus-Ground: Rise to A

 

Additions:

Groudon: Drop from A

Mega Kangaskhan: Rise from B

Kyogre: Drop from S

Mega Sableye: Rise from unranked

Zekrom: Drop from A

 

No Changes:

Arceus-Fairy

Arceus-Grass

Genesect

Sylveon

Thundurus

Wobbuffet

 

 

 

 

B Rank (old)

681.png386d.png530.png598.png487o.png472.png485.png115.png115-m.png448.png448-m.png492s.png248.png248-m.png547.png

B Rank (new)

elvqhTa.png493-electric.png(Electric)493-poison.png(Poison)681.png530.png598.png576.png485.png448.png448-m.pngp4uPcqX.png492s.png248.png547.png494.png

Losses:

Deoxys-Defense: Drop to C-

Origin Giratina: Rise to A

Gliscor: Rise to A-

Mega Kangaskhan: Rise to B+

Mega Tyranitar: Drop to F/unranked

 

Additions:

Mega Altaria: Rise from unranked

Arceus-Electric: Drop from A-

Arceus-Poison: Drop from A-

Gothitelle: Drop from A-

Mega Metagross: Rise from unranked

Victini: Rise from unranked

 

No Changes:

Aegislash

Excadrill

Ferrothorn

Heatran

Lucario/Mega Lucario

Sky Shaymin

Tyranitar

Whimsicott

 

 

 

 

 

B- Rank (old)

493-dark.png(Dark)493-rock.png(Rock)493-steel.png(Steel)242.png036.png091.png450.png646-w.png195.png302.png545.png

B- Rank (new)

493-rock.png(Rock)242.png036.png091.png658.png450.png646-w.png195.png302.png545.png

Losses:

Arceus-Dark: Rise to A

Arceus-Steel: Drop to C+

 

Additions:

Greninja: Rise from F/unranked

 

No Changes:

Arceus-Rock

Blissey

Clefable

Cloyster

Hippowdon

White Kyurem

Quagsire

Sableye

Scolipede

 

 

 

 

 

C+ Rank (old)

493-fire.png(Fire)493-psychic.png(Psychic)437.png006.png006-mx.png006-my.png719.png487.png130.png130-m.png385.png303.png303-m.png213.png227.png235.png639.png

C+ Rank (new)

493-fire.png(Fire)493-psychic.png(Psychic)493-steel.png(Steel)493-water.png(Water)437.png006-mx.png006-my.png719.png487.png130.png130-m.png385.png303-m.png213.png227.png235.png639.png

Losses:

Charizard: Drop to F/unranked

Mawile: Drop to F/unranked

 

Additions:

Arceus-Steel: Drop from B-

Arceus-Water: Drop from A-

 

No Changes:

Arceus-Fire

Arceus-Psychic

Bronzong

Mega Charizard X

Mega Charizard Y

Diancie

Altered Giratina

Gyarados/Mega Gyarados

Jirachi

Mega Mawile

Shuckle

Skarmory

Smeargle

Terrakion

 

 

 

 

 

C Rank (old)

591.png493-dragon.png(Dragon)493-flying.png(Flying)132.png205.png423.png643.png

C Rank (new)

591.png493-dragon.png(Dragon)493-flying.png(Flying)132.png205.png423.png643.png073.png

Losses:

None

 

Additions:

Tentacruel: Up from F/unranked

 

No Changes:

Amoonguss

Arceus-Dragon

Arceus-Flying

Ditto

Forretress

Gastrodon

Reshiram

 

 

 

 

 

C- Rank (old)

460.png460-m.png493-fighting.png(Fighting)

C- Rank (new)

493-fighting.png(Fighting)386d.png

Losses:

Abomasnow/Mega: Drop to F/unranked

 

Additions:

Deoxys-Defense: Drop from B

 

No Changes:

Arceus-Fighting

 

 

 

 

 

D Rank (old)

493-bug.png(Bug)493-ice.png(Ice)386.png

D Rank (new)

493-bug.png(Bug)493-ice.png(Ice)386.png

Losses:

None

 

Additions:

None

 

No Changes:

Arceus-Bug

Arceus-Ice

Deoxys-Normal

 

 

 

 

 

E Rank (old) (a.k.a "Don't use these")

113.png

E Rank (new) (a.k.a "Don't use these")

113.pngFj9Ab0G.pngFj9Ab0G.png376.png

 

Losses:

None

 

Additions:

Mega Latias

Mega Latios

Metagross

 

No Changes:

Chansey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As it turns out, after Mega Salamence was banned many of the OU ranks were reverted back to the last XY ranks. Including the changes from that list, here are the current ORAS OU Singles updates:

 

Rises:

376-m.png: A+ ---> S
645-s.png: A+ ---> S

381.png: A+ ---> S
642.png: A+ ---> S

184.png: A ---> A+

127-m.png: B ---> A+

 

Drops:

006-mx.png: S ---> A+
647.png: S ---> A+

445.png: A+ ---> A
151.png: A+ ---> A
003-m.png: A+ ---> A
006-my.png: A+ ---> A

 

New Additions:
691.png: Unranked ---> C
675.png: Unranked ---> C-
330.png: Unranked ---> D

 

Dragalgae and Pangoro were added to the list due to their increased viability in OU as a result of the new tools they received from ORAS (Dragalgae finally having access to Adaptability and Pangoro getting several move tutors). Flygon was added for its niche of being a Defog user that is both immune to Spikes and resistant to Stealth Rock, and is capable of taking on many of OU's most notable Stealth Rock users, including those that give Latios problems (namely Ferrothorn, Landorus-Therian, Heatran, Hippowdon, and Skarmory), as well as access to Roost and can check Mega Scizor and Excadrill to an extent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

New Additions:

691.png: Unranked ---> C

675.png: Unranked ---> C-

330.png: Unranked ---> D

 

Dragalgae and Pangoro were added to the list due to their increased viability in OU as a result of the new tools they received from ORAS (Dragalgae finally having access to Adaptability and Pangoro getting several move tutors). Flygon was added for its niche of being a Defog user that is both immune to Spikes and resistant to Stealth Rock, and is capable of taking on many of OU's most notable Stealth Rock users, including those that give Latios problems (namely Ferrothorn, Landorus-Therian, Heatran, Hippowdon, and Skarmory), as well as access to Roost and can check Mega Scizor and Excadrill to an extent.

I see personally I think  Pangoro needed more love anyways and Dragalgae is a formable pokemon to use just the thing is these pokemon are on the slow side unless they are teamed up with pokemon knowing 'trick-room'. :-P

 

Also Flygon is due for a Mega-form  but that won't be tell the future..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Singles UU Update:

 

 

Rises:

065-m.png: A+ ---> S

t1uu1nb.png: A+ ---> S

428-m.png: A+ ---> S

245.png: A+ ---> S

718.png: A ---> S

635.png: A- ---> A+

620.png: A ---> A+

169.png: A- ---> A

068.png: A- ---> A

488.png: B- ---> A-

232.png: B+ ---> A-

547.png: B+ ---> A-

683.png: B ---> B+

662.png: B ---> B+

612.png: B ---> B+

646.png: B ---> B+

579.png: B ---> B+

479m.png: B ---> B+

452.png: C ---> B-

230.png: C ---> B-

 

 

Drops:

553.png: A ---> A-

448.png: A ---> A-

243.png: A ---> A-

555.png: A- ---> B

478.png: A- ---> B

591.png: B+ ---> B

205.png: B+ ---> B

437.png: B ---> B-

330.png: B- ---> C

354-m.png: C ---> F (Unranked)

655.png: C ---> F (Unranked)

 

 

 

New Additions:

121.png: A-

675.png: B-

176.png: B-

323-mega.png: C

Link to comment
Share on other sites

RU Ranks update. Again, because there are so many significant changes, I'll be posting the old and new lists for comparison.

 

S Rank (old)
917d0aa2d0.png146.png648.png

S Rank (new)
229-m.pngAsvQNus.png146.pngns1PnDU.png

 

 

A+ Rank (old)
638.png488.png680.png207.png579.png319.png199.png

A+ Rank (new)
488.png680.png691.png207.png648.png319.pngAKSQwc4.png

 

 

A Rank (old)
594.png683.png452.png621.png662.png106.png464.png442.png640.png

A Rank (new)
917d0aa2d0.png594.png683.pngMbxWOjE.png638.png662.pngQ8a7hTZ.png675.pngYuS4yui.png464.png

 

 

A- Rank (old)
693.png655.png051.png632.png589.png295.png135.png082.png379.png275.png

A- Rank (new)
452.png051.png589.png106.png229.png579.png199.png685.png442.png

 

 

B+ Rank (old)

617.png531.png591.png628.png604.png533.png141.png139.png479m.png211.png435.png

B+ Rank (new)

617.png591.png437.png621.png500.png295.png135.png141.png082.png211.png379.png275.png435.png547.png

 

 

B Rank (old)

437.png256.png500.png042.png695.png171.png481.png561.png465.png110.png547.png176.png

B Rank (new)

531.pngeHZd9AB.png628.png632.png604.png475.png042.png533.png695.png171.png481.png139.png479m.png7H7CLGA.png110.png

 

 

B- Rank (old)

567.png354-m.png573.png475.png423.png368.png210.png237.png402.png429.png539.png537.png685.png178.png335.png

B- Rank (new)

256.png655.png423.png368.png210.png237.png539.png537.png561.png465.png176.png697.png640.png178.png335.png

 

 

C+ Rank (old)

563.png346.png691.png711.png(Small)711.png(XL)510.png221.png377.png315.png479f.png028.png215.png389.png697.png480.png666.png

C+ Rank (new)

567.png573.png693.png563.png711.png(Small)711.png(XL)352.png402.png429.png221.png062.png377.png028.png389.png480.png

 

 

C Rank (old)

626.png441.png160.png597.png124.png678.png241.png675.png279.png479.png254.png208.png128.png

C Rank (new)

354-m.png626.png441.png346.png160.png124.png510.png279.png315.png479f.png215.png128.png666.png

 

 

C- Rank (old)

460.png024.png689.png703.png132.png463.png593.png272.png668.png479-spin.png277.png

C- Rank (new)

460.png689.png703.png132.png597.png593.png272.png678.png(M)

 

 

D Rank (old)

424.png332.png103.png449.png122.png549.png264.png262.png624.png062.png123.png508.png618.png071.png634.png

D Rank (new)

297.png449.png549.png254.png508.png618.png634.png

 

 

E Rank (old) (aka "Don't use these")

344.png107.png

E Rank (new) (aka "Don't use these")

424.png344.png107.png624.png202.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

NU Rankings update
 

S Rank (old)
160.png481.png157.png

S Rank (new)
None
 

 

 

A+ Rank (old)
567.png297.png115.png429.png668.png503.png685.png480.png178.png

A+ Rank (new)
160.png362-mega.png297.png115.png549.png481.png157.png480.png

 

A Rank (old)
597.png141.png510.png549.png112.png479.png537.png

A Rank (new)
567.png531-mega.png323-mega.png569.png533.png429.png675.png668.png112.png479.png123.png537.png208-mega.png178.png

 

 

A- Rank (old)
531.png558.png615.png368.png533.png124.png601.png539.png666-meadow.png

A- Rank (new)
332.png597.png368.png124.png141.png272.png518.png503.png539.png215.png110.png
 
 
B+ Rank (old)
 617.png565.png569.png210.png272.png467.png518.png38.png624.png211.png479-fan.png215.png208.png114.png128.png45.png110.png335.png

B+ Rank (new)
 615.png601.png510.png38.png221.png211.png479-fan.png208.png335.png

 

 

B Rank (old)
 626.png332.png466.png136.png623.png171.png470.png687.png675.png57.png476.png516.png277.png389.png

B Rank (new)
 531.png689.png565.png558.png103.png171.png470.png467.png687.png624.png277.png114.png45.png666-meadow.png

 

 

B- Rank (old)
 
689.png323.png426.png103.png326.png93.png64.png402.png542.png463.png264.png279.png221.png62.png315.png479-frost.png28.png123.png581.png176.png

B- Rank (new)
 
617.png626.png136.png623.png711-small.png(Small)711-super.png(XL)352.png62.png57.png315.png28.png581.png128.png176.png
 
 
C+ Rank (old)
 144.png550-red-striped.png441.png346.png76.png711-small.png(Small)711-super.png(XL)352.png608.png678-male.png651.png409.png377.png618.png71.png629.png634.png

C+ Rank (new)
 699.png703.png441.png346.png466.png210.png326.png93.png367.png64.png402.png463.png264.png678-male.png89.png279.png476.png409.png377.png479-frost.png497.png516.png618.png389.png71.png629.png634.png

 

C Rank (old)
 334.png606.png703.png132.png611.png657.png105.png241.png122.png89.png26.png378.png586-spring.png497.png217.png

C Rank (new)
 144.png606.png132.png611.png657.png673.png76.png608.png105.png375.png241.png122.png394.png651.png26.png378.png586-spring.png217.png

 

 

C- Rank (old)
24.png168.png699.png225.png85.png477.png419.png631.png449.png99.png405.png226.png284.png262.png291.png394.png514.png508.png528.png313.png523.png

C- Rank (new)
24.png550-red-striped.png323.png225.png85.png426.png477.png419.png631.png449.png99.png542.png226.png284.png262.png291.png292.png508.png528.png324.png313.png

 
D+ Rank (old)

713.png12.png148.png471.png673.png367.png428.png375.png200.png186.png432.png78.png292.png512.png705.png324.png193.png

D+ Rank (new)

168.png148.png356.png592.png471.png131.png200.png186.png559.png514.png705.png523.png

 

 

 

D Rank (old)

411.png578.png356.png55.png131.png457.png369.png538.png

D Rank (new)

713.png12.png405.png391.png198.png432.png78.png512.png40.png193.png

 

 

 

D- Rank (old)

348.png400.png125.png101.png676.png526.png97.png189.png391.png164.png224.png53.png40.png

D- Rank (new)

348.png411.png457.png369.png538.png365.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Singles OU Update
 
Rises:

elvqhTa.png: A ---> A+

Very versatile Pokemon and perhaps the best bulky Dragon Dancer currently, due to its excellent defensive typing.

130-m.png: A ---> A+

Finally gained Crunch in ORAS, and Mold Breaker Taunt gives it a huge niche in being able to shut down Mega Sableye, who doesn't give a crap about Taunt otherwise, Mega Gyarados has become more threatening as a Dragon Dancer than it was in XY

AsvQNus.png: A ---> A+

Harasses offense with its blistering 135 speed, access to Scrappy Fake Out, and unresisted coverage in Normal+Fighting with Scrappy, and ability to use Baton Pass to either pivot out or pass Substitutes.

x568l7X.png: A ---> A+

One of two staples of Stall teams, it is almost impossible to crush with physical attacks with its double boosting Iron Defense + Calm Mind set, and the Sleep Talk set doesn't care about status, and Shell Armor means that you won't be able to bypass its absurd defenses with Critical Hits.

0vrs5qm.png: A- ---> A+

Really good staple on Stall teams, as it completely cockblocks opposing stall and Taunt from anything not named Mega Gyarados.
 

 

Drops:

149.png: A ---> B+

It has to rely too much on its mediocre 80 base speed. Its outclassed as a Dragon Dancer by Mega Altaria, and its Choice Band set isn't able to break through some of the newer threats, in particular Mega Metagross and Mega Diancie, which give it huge problems. Choice Band Extremespeed is still useful in getting the KO on fast and frail offensive threats like Mega Sceptile, however.

 

472.png: A ---> A-

As a stallbreaker, it can't do anything versus Mega Sableye, and is exploitable by alot of offensive threats in ORAS, including Greninja, Mega Altaria, Mega Sceptile, and Gyarados (both Mega and non-Mega) that run Substitute. Its ability to check Mega Heracross isn't as needed since Mega Heracross's use is decreasing, and Landorus-Therian has gotten even better in ORAS, giving Gliscor more competition.

 

214-m.png: A ---> A-

Its still a good and powerful Pokemon, but it now faces competition from Mega Gallade and Mega Loppuny in the role of a Mega Fighting type, both of which possess much better speed tiers.

 

473.png: A ---> A-

While its still a good Pokemon in its ability to set up Stealth Rock and threaten Mega Sceptile with Ice Shard, it lost some of its overall effectiveness.

 

308-m.png: A ---> C+

Outclassed by Mega Gallade. Anything this thing can do, Mega Gallade does better.

 

151.png: A ---> B+

Partially outclassed by Mega Sableye in the role of stallbreaking, and it can't do anything to Mega Sableye either due to Magic Bounce, limiting its effectiveness as a Stallbreaker.

 

639.png: A ---> A-

Like Mega Heracross, Terrakion isn't a bad Pokemon but now it has to deal with Mega Lopunny and Mega Gallade, both of which outspeed it. 108 base speed isn't as good as it used to be in general, as 110 base is the new speed tier that ORAS is centered around, thus Terrakion finds itself outspeed by alot of the new threats. It can still act as an efficient lead, however.

646-b.png: A- ---> B+

Can no longer check Greninja due to Low Kick, and its typing holds it back against many of the new Megas, most notably Mega Metagross and Mega Diancie.

 

248-m.png: A- ---> B

Outclassed by the base form in every role except for Dragon Dance, and even then it is outclassed by Mega Altaria, Mega Gyarados, and Mega Charizard X as a Dragon Dancer. Many of the new threats still outspeed it after a single Dragon Dance, and is in general much easier to revenge kill than it was in XY.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Singles OU Update:

 

251.png: B+ ---> A-
Celebi rose to A- due to its ability to handle new omnipresent threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Diancie, and Mega Lopunny with its NastyPass set, and versatility, as it can run at least 4 differents sets effectively (NastyPass, offensive NP, Scarf, defensive utility)

 

130.png: B+ ---> A-

[Normal] Gyarados rose to A- because it pairs excellently with new physical MEvos on offensive teams, such as Mega Lopunny, Mega Metagross, Mega Altaria, which automatically makes it more viable. With physical offense becoming so potent, Gyarados is an excellent sweeper to pair your MEvos with, and it can also bypass Thundurus with Lum Berry.

450.png: B+ ---> A-

Hippowdon rose to A- because of all the new physical threats it deals with, as well as being one of the best counters to Thundurus and Mega Diancie with a specially defensive set.

464.png: B+ ---> B

Rhyperior dropped to B because physical offense has become way too unfavorable to it, and every single new physical MEvo either 2HKOes it (Mega Metagross, Mega Lopunny) or sets up on it (Mega Altaria). Birdspam is also not such a huge focus of physical offense right now, due to the big amount of amazing physical sweepers and cleaners available, which means that Rhyperior is not keeping in check as much stuff as it used to anymore. Plus, Mega Sableye does its SR job harder, and Dragonite and Mega Tyranitar also dropped a lot in viability, two dangerous Pokemon that Rhyperior was a great check to.

245.png: B+ ---> B

Suicune dropped to B because Mega Slowbro is the preferred CM bulky Water-type on teams, and the metagame has also adapted to dealing with bulky boosting threats due to the introduction of Mega Slowbro, and the influx of Pokemon that make Suicune's life miserable, such as TG + Energy Ball Manaphy, NP Celebi, NP Thundurus, SubDD Mega Gyarados, DD Heal Bell Mega Altaria, etc.

vSaxZS9.png: B+ ---> B

Mega Swampert dropped to B because of heavy competition in the Swift Swim and MEvo department. As a Swift Swim user, Mega Swampert is a bit lacking in power and also needs one turn to MEvolve, which can be detrimental against a boosted foe. It does somewhat makes up for it with its bulk and great typing, but the fact that it's a MEvo puts it one rank lower than Kingdra and Kabutops, which provide better cleaning and sweeping potential and don't occupy your Mega slot.

641-s.png: B+ ---> B

Tornadus-T dropped because the metagame is more focused around physical hitter, which Tornadus-T can't switch into. Furthermore, the majority of the popular special attackers beat Tornadus-T, such as Greninja, Thundurus, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Slowbro, Mega Diancie, Mega Manectric, Mega Latias, and Mega Sableye. Finally, Torn-T received new checks in Mega Metagross and Mega Diancie, making it easier to check with offensive teams.

494.png: B+ ---> B

Victini dropped because Mega Altaria, Mega Diancie, and Mega Slowbro are new checks and counters, making Victini's job more difficult.

594.png: B ---> B-

Alomomola dropped because set up sweepers being everywhere really hurts its viability, as no matter how prepared you are for them, Pokemon such as SD Mega Gallade and SubPass Mega Lopunny will just give you a hell of a time.

591.png: B ---> B+
Amoonguss rose to B+ because it deals with some important new threats, namely Mega Altaria, Mega Diancie, and Mega Slowbro. Plus with Mega Venusaur getting harder to fit on teams due to the increased opportunity cost, Amoonguss enjoys the slightly decreased competition as Grass / Poison type. Although Celebi gives it big competition, Poison-typing, Spore, Clear Smog, and Regenerator give Amoonguss plenty of reasons to be used.

 

MbxWOjE.png: B ---> C+

Mega Camerupt dropped to C+ because it's too slow, doesn't hit that hard, and takes up your MEvo slot. Many Pokemon can avoid the 2HKO from it while OHKOing back, such as Latios, Rotom-W, and AV Azumarill, while even more Pokemon can check it once and force it out, which is a big problem for a Pokemon as slow as Mega Camerupt, without any kind of recovery and not that impressive bulk.

652.png: B ---> B+

Chesnaught rose to B+ because Drain Punch is amazing, providing Chesnaught with a reliable STAB move that can restore it to (almost) full health after KOing foes such as Bisharp, Mega Gyarados, Mega Lopunny, and Terrakion, plus Chesnaught deals with a few new or improved threats, such as Mega Gyarados and Mega Lopunny.

448.png: B ---> B-

Lucario dropped to B- because the new MEvos make its life miserable, with Mega Diancie and Mega Metagross being great checks for offense, and Mega Slowbro being a hard counter for defensive or balance teams. Also, Mega Sableye and Mega Altaria force Lucario to run Iron Tail, which in turn leaves it vulnerable to Pokemon such as Gliscor, Landorus-T, and regular Slowbro.

545.png: B ---> B-

Scolipede dropped to B- because full Baton Pass teams took a hit with the introduction of Mega Sableye, Mega Slowbro, and Mega Diancie. The two Magic Bounce users can't be Taunted, put to sleep, or phazed, and can start boosting to sweep the whole BP team, while Mega Slowbro can do the same if it has Oblivious in its base form and uses a RestTalk set.

145.png: B ---> B-
Zapdos dropped to B- because flying spam is less popular and most top tier therats have no trouble getting past Zapdos, a Pokemon that is already Stealth Rock weak and doesn't have impressive bulk.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Small OU Singles update

 

Rises:

None

 

Drops:

127-m.png: A+ -> A

Mega Pinsir has trouble revenge killing important Megas such as Mega Lopunny, Mega Sceptile, and Mega Gallade, the former two are often behind a Substitute while the latter avoids the OHKO from Aerialate Quick Attack, a problem that is further exacerbated by its Stealth Rock weakness. It also struggles against offense, as many Offense teams carry at least two checks to Mega Pinsir, including though not limited to, Choice Scarf Tyranitar, Sand Rush Excadrill, Mega Metagross, Mega Diancie, Talonflame, Choice Scarf Heatran, Rotom-Wash, Choice Scarf Magnezone, Thundurus-Incarnate, Mega Aerodactyl, Mega Manectric, Raikou, Omastar, and Kabutops. Furthermore, the new Megas introduced in ORAS also give Mega Pinsir more competition, resulting in a decreased opportunity cost as many of them do not require the same amount of support as Mega Pinsir.

 

x568l7X.png: A+ -> A

While Mega Slowbro is indeed threatening, it is also very matchup based depending on the opponent's team. While its double boosting Calm Mind + Iron Defense set is very effective against offense, it struggles against Stall teams as its vulnerable to Toxic and Taunt. The CroBro set (Scald + Calm Mind + Rest + Sleep Talk) mitigates this somewhat, it is very susceptible to special attackers such as Thundurus-Incarnate, Greninja, Mega Manectric, Mega Gardevoir, and Latios, just to name a few. Both sets are easily phazed out by Roar/Whirlwind/Dragon Tail, and both sets are setup bait for Substitute Mega Gyarados. Due to its low speed, it is easily worn down even if it boosts, and has to use Slack Off constantly as it loses Regenerator upon Mega Evolving.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Singles OU update:
 
488.png: B- ---> B
Cresselia is a great fit for Balance and Stall teams, as it has some of the best mixed bulk in the game. Survives a Bisharp's Knock Off and Paralyzes in return, and can easily tank a Life Orb Latios's Draco Meteor while beating it 1-on-1 with Moonblast. Very good at setting up Light Screen + Reflect and/or stalling with Toxic, and also provides additional team support with Lunar Dance, but held back by its general lack of offensive presence.
680.png: B- ---> C+
Doublade is no longer a staple on stall teams, as Mega Sableye easily beats Mega Gallade, which was Doublade's primary role in XY OU with Mega Medicham. Jirchi has seen a surge in usage, and beats Mega Gardevoir, a Mega previously capable of 6-0ing stall teams. Simply put, not as effective as it used to be.
229-m.png: B- ---> B
Mega Houndoom threatens both Mega Slowbro and Mega Sableye simultaneously, and uses the latter as setup fodder for Nasty Plot, a huge boon in this metagame as Mega Sableye is such a huge boon to stall teams right now. 115 base speed isn't bad as it allows it to outpace Latios, Latias, Gengar, and Mega Metagross and easily score a KO against them. Yeah, it sucks that there are no viable sun setters in OU outside of Mega Charizard Y, which is incompatible with Mega Houndoom for obvious reasons, but with the above traits it doesn't even need Solar Power to be effective.
 
576.png: B- ---> B
With stall teams being much more viable in ORAS now, Gothitelle's viability has gone up as a result, with its ability to come in and shut down any defensive Pokemon barring Mega Sableye, trapping them with Shadow Tag while whittling away at them with its attacks or crippling them by Tricking away its Choice Scarf, easily opening holes for its team to take advantage of. Its also a very nice partner for Mega Sableye on stall teams, as it helps deal with Manaphy, which Mega Sableye has trouble with.
707.png: B- ---> B+
Klefki got much better in the transition to ORAS, acting as a great setter of Light Screen + Reflect. Prankster Thunder Wave stops setup sweepers like Mega Altaria cold. Steel/Fairy is an excellent typing as Mega Mawile proved prior to its ban. It's also an effective Spikes setter, so it definitely puts in work for Hyper Offense teams. Also acts as an auxiliary rain setter on rain teams due to Prankster Rain Dance. Prankster Magnet Rise also puts a stop to some of its would-be checks and counters. Oh and did I mention it also threatens Mega Metagross with Foul Play?
AKSQwc4.png: B- ---> B
Mega Sharpedo is a very effective cleaner in OU. It puts in alot of work against bulkier threats, so it performs well against defense, and by abusing the base form's Speed Boost prior to Mega Evolving, can outpace offensive teams as well. Obviously its frail and hates priority, and cannot afford to switch out once it Mega Evolves since it loses Speed Boost for the rest of the match, so it is forced to run Protect in order to safely acquire the Speed Boost and Mega Evolve on the next turn.
398.png: B- ---> C+
Birdspam teams have gotten worse in ORAS. Staraptor's speed tier is not as good as it used to be. The Choice Band set is much easier to revenge kill and loses to all of S rank, while the Choice Scarf set renders it unable to get past Mega Slowbro and Mega Sableye.
 
468.png: B- ---> B
Togekiss acts as a nice wallbreaker that also has nice defensive utility. It annoys Stall teams with Nasty Plot boosted Air Slashes, coupled with its annoying 60% flinch rate due to Serene Grace, allowing it to counter Mega Slowbro and Mega Sableye. Thunder Wave helps against offense teams, and also counters Mega Sceptile while acting as a check to Mega Gallade and Mega Lopunny. It can also play a more defensive role with Heal Bell if needed. It can also outspeed and threaten Bisharp with Aura Sphere.
461.png: B- ---> B
Weavile's combination of powerful priority, blazing Speed stat, decently powerful STAB moves, and Pursuit trapping abilities makes it a great option for many offensive teams in need of a solid revenge killer as well as something to pressure common Defoggers and checkmate Gengar. It checks 4/5 of the Pokemon in S Rank and several Pokemon in the A ranks. With a great coverage move in Low Kick, and priority in Ice Shard, Weavile is a deadly cleaner and revenge killer. Also, Icicle Crash is now legal with Knock Off as of ORAS, another great plus for it.
 
244.png: C+ ---> C
While Entei getting Ho-oh's former signature move is nice, 50% burn doesn't mean anything for Mega Altaria when it has many ways to circumvent this (Refresh, Substitute, or even Facade). Mega Slowbro and Mega Diancie also don't care about Sacred Fire, making Entei's job harder.
706.png: C+ ---> C
Mediocre tank at best. easily worn down and is complete dead weight against Stall teams.
392.png: C+ ---> C
While Infernape can still function as an anti-lead Pokemon, new threats such as Mega Slowbro and Mega Sableye make its life difficult. Mega Altaria and Mega Latias are also hard counters, so it lost viability in practically all of its roles.
082.png: C+ ---> B-
Choice Scarf Magneton outspeeds and revenge kills Greninja, something that its evolution Magnezone cannot do even with a Choice Scarf, thus giving it a niche over its evolution while still providing a similar role.
302.png: C+ ---> C
While Sableye definitely didn't change much from X/Y, that fact that it got a mega evolution leaves even less reason to use it as a stand alone mon, as people usually utilize its regular form along with its mega. Prankster Will-o-Wisp is really all its got going for it, as Mega Sableye has better defenses, an awesome ability, and overall utility. Even with prankster Recover, Sableye will die quickly and swiftly due to its shit defenses, and isn't too hard to play around. To put it simply, there is almost no reason to not use Sableye in tandem with its mega form unless you REALLY love prankster WOW's. The combined utility of Sableye and its mega form far outclasses what its base form can do alone.
454.png: C+ ---> B-
Toxicroak checks a good handful of very threatening OU mons like Bisharp, Mega Gyarados, Keldeo, Azumarill, and nearly all other relevant Fairies (and most Greninja lol). It is extremely valuable for offense to have something that checks all of these dangerous pokes in just one team slot. It can basically check most Fighting, Dark, and Fairy Pokemon. An amazing team player for offense. Because of its great ability, it counters Pokemon like Suicune and Alomomola that rely on water moves for damage. Due to it being so anti-meta, with SD and LO it can do crazy damage to many teams. Only the bulkiest of Pokemon can take a neutral +2 Gunk Shot and survive. Sucker Punch provides priority for the team. After setting up, it KO's Mega Metagross after SR with Sucker Punch. It doesn't get worn down as easily because of Drain Punch. It can also run interesting coverage options like Knock Off, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Stone Edge, and has some utility options like Taunt/Thunder Wave/Fake Out. With its crazy amount of coverage options, it's pretty much impossible to pin down something that perfectly counters it. Even Skarmory is 2HKO'ed by a Sub-Punch set. Toxicroak does have its problems, however. It is very frail, and doesn't like directly switching into the stuff it checks. It is also on the slow side. This isn't a huge problem because it can still check what it wants to with 85 speed and Sucker Punch. Also, Gunk Shot's 80% accuracy is potentially annoying. Finally, even though it has a plethora of coverage/utility options, it cannot cover everything in 4 moves.
465.png: C+ ---> B-
Tangrowth enjoys the increased usage of Mega Gyarados and the declining use of both Mega Pinsir and Mega Charizard Y. It is a bulky pivot with Assault Vest and Regenerator that works great for Balanced and Bulky Offense teams, walling Keldeo and beating Mega Slowbro, Mega Lopunny, and Mega Sceptile. It can run Earthquake to screw over Heatran, or provides utility with Knock Off to cripple item-reliant Pokemon.
 
 
 
Singles UU Updates

 

711.png(XL): Unranked --> C
205.png: B --> B+
015-m.png: A --> A+
018-m.png: A- --> A
685.png: C --> B-
671.png: B+ --> A-
362-m.png: C --> B-
AKSQwc4.png: B+ --> A-
244.png: A --> A+
571.png: C --> B-
488.png: A --> A-
709.png: C --> D

 

 

Singles RU Updates:

 

488.png: A+ -> S

691.png: A+ -> S

AKSQwc4.png: A+ -> S

594.png: A -> A+

675.png: A -> A+

YuS4yui.png: A -> A+

680.png: A+ -> A

589.png: A- -> A

199.png: A- -> A

437.png: B+ -> A-

051.png: A- -> B+

591.png: B+ -> B

632.png: B -> B+

604.png: B -> B+

139.png: B -> B+

697.png: B- -> B+

210.png: B- -> B

237.png: B- -> B

176.png: B- -> B

640.png: B- -> B

110.png: B -> B-

693.png: C+ -> B-

593.png: C- -> C+

687.png: Unranked -> C

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Singles Ubers Updates:

645-s.png: A- -> B+

484.png: A- -> B+

212.png: A- -> F/Unranked

493-grass.png(Grass): B+ -> C+

493-rock.png(Rock): B- -> B+

382.png: B+ -> B

0vrs5qm.png: B+ -> B

700.png: B+ -> F/Unranked

elvqhTa.png: B -> F/Unranked

448.png: B -> F/Unranked

302.png: B- -> B

494.png: B -> B-

195.png: B- -> F/Unranked

227.png: C+ -> B-

132.png: C -> C+

591.png: C -> F/Unranked

 

 

 

Singles NU Updates:

362-m.png: A+ -> BANNED

675.png: A -> BANNED

Link to comment
Share on other sites

398.png: B- ---> C+

Birdspam teams have gotten worse in ORAS. Staraptor's speed tier is not as good as it used to be. The Choice Band set is much easier to revenge kill and loses to all of S rank, while the Choice Scarf set renders it unable to get past Mega Slowbro and Mega Sableye.

 

 

Plus Considering the move "stealth rock' is now more available in OR/AS for many and new pokemon to learn (including Diancie) that makes matters worse for flying-types. :-P

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Stealth Rock has always been available for two generations now, ORAS's move tutors didn't change anything regarding Stealth Rock. Stealth Rock didn't play a part in Staraptor's decline in viability, so I don't know what gave you the impression that it did.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Stealth Rock has always been available for two generations now, ORAS's move tutors didn't change anything regarding Stealth Rock. Stealth Rock didn't play a part in Staraptor's decline in viability, so I don't know what gave you the impression that it did.

Its more available now for trainers that didn't play Gen5 (B/W2 tutors) that teaches pokemon "Stealth Rock". And thanks to OR/AS on bringing tutors back its more Accessible now besides breeding of course. :-P

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...