mugenarchive needs help

[PlasmoidThunder]

2 hours ago, Jirobou said:

nobody could provide a virus scan proof of an infected adfly page

 

21 hours ago, Ricepigeon said:

And you're right: online scanners like Virustotal aren't going to find anything on adfly itself. Its the ads that they display that contain security vulnerabilities, which are dynamic and change frequently between users, sometimes you'll get a perfectly safe ad and sometimes you'll get an ad that injects some nasty malware into your browser. Something like that can easily be missed by Virustotal due to it not being on adfly's site itself.

 

tl;dr, dynamic ads basically make adf.ly a game of Russian Roulette. As I said in my example regarding Ruben's Final Destination, whatever adf.ly was showing at the time redirected my browser to something other than MediaFire when I went to skip the ad, though my browser history showed that MediaFire was the intended location before being hijacked.

[Jirobou]

if there is virus in adfly pages we should have scan proof, even if pages are dynamic

virustotal logs all scans so if you can find a virus at any time, just one time, it will be logged forever, then just share the scan with everyone

 

but nobody to my knowledge ever shared such a scan, despite all the hate adfly gets

despite all the people who say there is virus, nobody could ever prove it, don't you think it's a bit strange?

 

if we can say there is virus without proof, then I'll say there is virus in mediafire, so let's stop using mediafire right now, and we must replace all mediafire links immediately, so what are you waiting for do it now? no? get it now? without a proof we just aren't going anywhere? asking people to make some big changes without proving why they even should, that's not going to work

 

adfly virus are like UFO, lot of people who believe yet no proof anywhere

probably because they don't exist if you ask me, that's the only logical explanation I can think of

[Niitris]

Better question:

Why should I (or anybody) help a website that makes money off other people's work?

 

Let's say I gain superpowers and make a character. Many days of work go into the barely passable character I made. Everything's fine, download link is still available, good shit. Other people upload their weeks worth of creations, hosting from various sites, whether it be OneDrive, Dropbox, or their own. Some of which they pay for with their own money. Then a website comes in to gather all the Mugen content it can find. It uses a service that uses ads (with no viruses) to make money off of the work I (and many other creators) have done.

 

Why should people help that site?

[Jirobou]

what? do you think mugenarchive was created for the sole purpose of making money?

you got it all wrong, mediafire and the likes exist only to make money but mugenarchive exists only for mugen

if the guys behind mugenarchive were in for the money don't you think they would do a general download site instead?
 

the good thing about mugenarchive is they have special scripts to process mugen files, that will tell you all the details you need about a char or stage, number of sprites, stage resolution, animations and so on, so you can do quality checks and find the good stuff, this is not something mediafire will do because they don't give a flying fuck about mugen, all they care about is money

 

so now the question is are you going to click on mediafire ads, a site that only cares about money, or are you going to support archive instead, a site that created a very decent platform to document and download mugen stuff

[Niitris]

^^ Why would mediafire care about mugen? And why would anyone use MA for "quality creations" when the best ones are hosted on the author's site, or various affiliates? Places that care about mugen just as much as MA.

 

I don't think MA is useless. There are characters that can't be found anywhere else. But there are valid questions people have about MA (because no site is perfect), yet you insist that people's criticism are lies that stem from some kind of vendetta towards the site.

 

I don't appreciate the idea of someone using other people's work to pay for their site. I personally don't care that much, but other people clearly do. And they believe that there are better hosts than an ad redirect with a poor reputation. These are valid complaints that are being ignored in favor of pre-existing beliefs.

 

If MA is such a great site, then why are they in so much trouble? And why is it that most people would rather see them go away? I'm done if it makes anyone happy, but these questions don't magically go away simply because it's not what you want to hear.

[PlasmoidThunder]

2 hours ago, Jirobou said:

a very decent platform to document and download mugen stuff

That cannot be accessed if you just so happened to be banned.

 

I don't see that as fair.

[Jirobou]

why did you get banned?

I mean do you have a link to the post that got you banned, I'd like to see for myself if the ban was unfair

[PlasmoidThunder]

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2256466

[Jirobou]

got to admit, it seems blown out of proportion if this is really all you posted

but it's strange, found your profile on MA and you don't seem to be banned anymore

[PlasmoidThunder]

Well I'll be damned. I wonder if the server crash had something to do with it.

[Wargame-kun]

reasons of ban ganking i loled 

[Starmie]

I really like how they chose that word cause I think no one knows what it means

 

19 hours ago, Niitris said:

^^ Why would mediafire care about mugen? And why would anyone use MA for "quality creations" when the best ones are hosted on the author's site, or various affiliates? Places that care about mugen just as much as MA.

 

I don't think MA is useless. There are characters that can't be found anywhere else. But there are valid questions people have about MA (because no site is perfect), yet you insist that people's criticism are lies that stem from some kind of vendetta towards the site.

 

I don't appreciate the idea of someone using other people's work to pay for their site. I personally don't care that much, but other people clearly do. And they believe that there are better hosts than an ad redirect with a poor reputation. These are valid complaints that are being ignored in favor of pre-existing beliefs.

 

If MA is such a great site, then why are they in so much trouble? And why is it that most people would rather see them go away? I'm done if it makes anyone happy, but these questions don't magically go away simply because it's not what you want to hear.

I Agree 100%. I'd rather download from the author's website.

 

[PlasmoidThunder]

In simple terms, it's basically a shorter way of saying 'ganging up', so they basically banned a load of people who were raising issue with or saying anything negative about the Archive because they saw it as people ganging up on them. As an admin myself, I personally feel this was the wrong way to go about handling the situation, especially when most of those remarks were off-site. If I permanently banned anyone who ever said anything negative about the MUGEN Database, even I'd be banned :P

 

In actual terms, it's basically an MMORPG term for when higher-levelled players start going after significantly lower-levelled ones, which could be seen as the Archive calling themselves inferior

[Starmie]

Wow they sure like to cause drama. It's just criticism from people and they permanently ban them for speaking their opinions and the truth I'm glad I am not going back there because I said something negative about them there before, (but I wasn't banned) and MA needs to stop being so offended and just look at themselves and change already, banning people for stupid reasons will only make your community look worse.

[Jirobou]

nah I'm sure some of the people who got banned deserved it

 

I think Matt got banned because he participated in a ganking even if what he said wasn't much

perhaps he was eventually unbanned because he didn't say that much but the other punks who posted insults weren't forgiven, and I think it's fair

 

if you insult the owner of a site, and expect to use his site on top of that then you're a pretty dumb child

[PlasmoidThunder]

Some people in this community really need to grow a backbone. If you're getting offended by a bunch of people venting their understandable frustration over getting permanently banned for raising an issue about the usage of the ever-controversial adf.ly service over something more reputable like Google Adsense, then you probably shouldn't be running such a website. Banned or not, users should not be restricted from downloading MUGEN content of any kind, as that defeats the purpose of a warehouse; preventing banned users from participating in their community is fair game, however.

[Jirobou]

so if you made a site from your hard work and hard earned money, you would allow anybody to use it, even those who insult you or try to ruin it with false virus accusations?

 

I think people nowadays are too spoiled, they take everything for granted because it's free, but if google youtube or twitter wanted to ban you, they would have every right to, no matter the reason, they are private owned site and don't owe anything to anybody using their service for free

[PlasmoidThunder]

But you would still be able to watch videos.

 

Point is, they shouldn't be preventing people from accessing the files they host because the files aren't theirs to begin with. Let's say that if by some stroke of bad luck my hard drive crashed and OneDrive deleted all my files, the Archive would be the only place where I would be able to get my own creations, and if I was still banned, I'd be unable to access the stuff I created; do you see how that might seem a little bit wrong?

[Jirobou]

google has every right to ban you from watching any video they host, and they can do it for any or no reason, because they just don't owe you anything

the only reason why they don't do it is because they make money from traffic

[Starmie]

Yeah just cause you're banned doesn't mean you should get silly restrictions like being unable to download. When you're banned you should just be unable to post on their community or upload videos on YouTube

 

Matt is banned as it clearly says after offline

 

Just now, Jirobou said:

so if you made a site from your hard work and hard earned money, you would allow anybody to use it, even those who insult you or try to ruin it with false virus accusations?

It's call criticism and MA is treating it like insults which are 2 different things. Criticism is judging with your experience and honesty, Insulting is attacking with no particular reason. Matt should not have been banned because he was simply criticizing on MA. The viruses could be true I mean if people are complaining about something in my community I would try to fix it or redeem it not ban them because that doesn't help out the community

[DJSLASH571]

On 06/11/2016 at 6:30 PM, Jirobou said:

but mediafire has ads too even them nasty popup that I can't block

hosting is never free and there is always someone who must pay so why is it a big deal?

and it's members only because of DL accelerators so blame people with their DL accelerators that ruin websites

Well firstly, Mediafire is a commercial file sharing service, and isn't exclusive to MUGEN downloads only. Unlike Mugenarchive. Mediafire are supposed to make money. As for that DL accelerators bullshit, just because a couple of people used them doesn't justify limiting the downloads to users of a certain rank. For a place which is supposed to be a freeware archive, its seems more like an exclusive club or kliq and defeats the purpose of Mugen being freeware in the firs place. 

On 06/11/2016 at 4:17 PM, Jirobou said:

why the hate ?

mugenarchive is the only legitimate archive for mugen, so don't be selfish

and it's better than dead links

 

Mugencharacters.ucoz, Mugen Wikia and Mugen Fighters Guild Database say hi

 

 

 

[PlasmoidThunder]

1 hour ago, Starmie said:

Matt is banned as it clearly says after offline

I'm actually not, which is likely down to the server crash a few days ago or because the admins had a change of heart, perhaps.

Google only says I'm still banned because they haven't updated the page entry.

[DJSLASH571]

On 16/12/2016 at 0:02 AM, Jirobou said:

virus on adfly are like aliens, lots of people believe in it, but there is no proof

i have yet to see one evidence of virus on adfly

if you have evidence then by all means show it now, not another time, now

post some online scans of infected adfly ads, use virustotal.com it is the best online scan

if you can't post a proof then just accept that there is no virus until proven otherwise

 

never had a problem with adfly ads myself, the biggest bother is you have to wait 5sec, and sometimes there is a noisy video that i have to mute

but this is nothing compared to mediafire popup ads which are freezing my whole browser, for at least 20 freaking seconds

and sometimes i have to kill firefox because it won't respond anymore even after a while

mediafire ads are cancerous to me, and much much worse than adfly ads

 

really i believe all of this is plain hypocrisy

you criticize adfly ads, make up some bullshit virus story, and you don't say anything about mediafire cancerous ads, plain hypocrisy I tell ya

Easy solution to your MediaFire problem. Download AdBlock, run a virus scan and next time you explore torrent and porn sites use protection 

The worst ad you can get on MediaFire is one asking if you want to play online casinos. If your having "browser crashing ads" then either your software/system is VERY outdated or you have a browser hijacker infection.

 

By the way, this is soemone who specialises in IT support, not just some Mediafire Fanboy""

[Starmie]

Just now, GarchompMatt said:

I'm actually not, which is likely down to the server crash a few days ago or because the admins had a change of heart, perhaps.

Google only says I'm still banned because they haven't updated the page entry.

Perhaps but I hope other members who did what you did are unbanned as well

[Jirobou]

1 hour ago, DJSLASH571 said:

Well firstly, Mediafire is a commercial file sharing service, and isn't exclusive to MUGEN downloads only. Unlike Mugenarchive. Mediafire are supposed to make money. As for that DL accelerators bullshit, just because a couple of people used them doesn't justify limiting the downloads to users of a certain rank. For a place which is supposed to be a freeware archive, its seems more like an exclusive club or kliq and defeats the purpose of Mugen being freeware in the firs place. 

who's going to pay the archive server fees? the owner? what if he can't pay because it is too expensive? who's going to pay the fucking bill mate? YOU?

and how do you know download accelerators are bullshit, you have access to their logs?

lot of people nowadays use download accelerators, so I don't see why you think it's bullshit

 

 

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Mugencharacters.ucoz, Mugen Wikia and Mugen Fighters Guild Database say hi

Learn the difference between an archive and an index

An archive hosts the content

 

ucoz = 99% dead links lmao

wikia = nothing hosted and a mess beyond repair

guild database = 80% dead links + link to billions or obscure japanese webshit sites where you struggle for hours to find a download link that likely doesn't exist

 

guild is the worst of all, can't be bothered to use it anymore because of how outdated it is and how much a waste of everyones time it is

 

 

44 minutes ago, DJSLASH571 said:

Easy solution to your MediaFire problem. Download AdBlock, run a virus scan and next time you explore torrent and porn sites use protection 

The worst ad you can get on MediaFire is one asking if you want to play online casinos. If your having "browser crashing ads" then either your software/system is VERY outdated or you have a browser hijacker infection.

 

By the way, this is soemone who specialises in IT support, not just some Mediafire Fanboy""

I run two anti virus, they didn't find anything on my computer for over five years, why? because I'm ain't stupid I don't browse shit sites or download webshit programs

yet mediafire ads still freeze or crash my browser guaranteed, EVERY freaking time

 

2 hours ago, Starmie said:

It's call criticism and MA is treating it like insults which are 2 different things. Criticism is judging with your experience and honesty, Insulting is attacking with no particular reason. Matt should not have been banned because he was simply criticizing on MA. The viruses could be true I mean if people are complaining about something in my community I would try to fix it or redeem it not ban them because that doesn't help out the community

yes there were blantant insults and name calling in the thread look it up

do you even know the guild punks? they are the absolute worst, the reason why guild is as good as dead

less and less people can be bothered with these ass punks

nowadays people are all over ma or mffa or mmv, RIP ass guild you won't be missed